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11-05-2010, 09:24 PM
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She stumbled twice in the post parade while JRV was trying to get her to warm up a little.
Watching it again - it reminded me of the time my ear drum broke. I could barely keep my balance doing anything more than a walk. She didn't seem to have very good balance when JRV attempted to warm her up. 
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11-05-2010, 09:34 PM
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TP also said in the post-race that LAT was not quite right when being saddled - "she almost seemed sedated" - He said that he wanted Johnny V "to really warm her up".
So IMO when she didn't respond, the onus was on the jockey to inform the VET that there was a problem. I know that it is a tough call for the jockey when owners are at the races to see her run, but .... what if she was injured during the race?
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11-05-2010, 09:36 PM
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11-05-2010, 09:42 PM
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11-05-2010, 09:48 PM
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11-05-2010, 09:50 PM
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Alot of people dropped the ball on this one.
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11-05-2010, 09:52 PM
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I tried to call someone in Europe who has Betfair when this went down, but to no avail.
It's really a disgrace. As soon as JV said something on national TV it was going to be a disaster no matter what. Can you imagine what would have happened if she had broken down? It was just terrible to watch as someone who doesn't want to see a horse in distress and as a bettor. I don't buy the lights excuse either. . . that's obviously a cop out. I hope there's a big time backlash from this.
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11-05-2010, 09:57 PM
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Don't know if pre-race is online but she looked terrible in the post parade and JV looked very concerned. To note, JV did asked for and received a vet check and she cleared to go, well that's what they reported on ESPN after the race was over.
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11-05-2010, 10:00 PM
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The best Pletcher can do is tell Velazquez is to warm her up well? That idiot should have given specific orders.....if she doesnt feel right to order a scratch from the vet. Pletcher knew he was sending dogmeat to the track and just sat back and watched. He is the trainer of the horse and responsible for her well being. Today TAP stands for Totally Arrogant Prick
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11-05-2010, 09:57 PM
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that horse was higher than lil wayne..allday scurries away under the lights..
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11-05-2010, 09:59 PM
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From THE BLOODHORSE
Dr. Larry Bramlage, on-call veterinarian for the American Association of Equine Practitioners, said in a statement that the 5-year-old mare was examined prior to entering the starting gate by a team of three vets that "did not observe any physical problems.
"She was examined again after the race and again no physical problems were observed. A more in-depth examination will be conducted this evening and tomorrow," the statment read
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11-05-2010, 10:06 PM
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Who examined her - Stevie Wonder? Jeez, seeing the sweat pouring off her and her mincing steps as they were leading her off the track. She barely did more than a walk around that track. That sweat was stress from pain. Idiots!
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11-05-2010, 10:15 PM
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11-05-2010, 10:20 PM
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Pletcher is not to blame for anything. He thought she was "quiet" and "almost sedated looking" while being saddled. Big deal. Are trainers supposed to order horses scratched because of how they have behave in the saddling area? ESPN showed a picture of her being saddled - and both Johnny V and a handler were both petting her and playfully smacking her shoulder to try and wake her up. The first problem was when she got on the racetrack and first tried to refuse to warm up - than stumbled a few times in her warm up. The second problem was when Johnny V. is telling the ESPN guys she's not warming up well at all. The third problem was five minutes later - when the camera came back to Life At Ten and Bailey asked Johnny V. if she's doing any better and Johnny V. tells ESPN "No. Not really." Bailey asks what's wrong - and all Johnny V. says is "I'm not sure"
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11-05-2010, 10:19 PM
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11-05-2010, 09:36 PM
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