Smarty Jones to Ghost Ridge Farm, PA

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Sorry to interrupt the lovefest...

Reasons aside, I think it's nice that he's going home.

Okay gentlemen, carry on.

He's " going home " because he's a huge failure as a sire.

I guess that makes his failure " nice. "

[freddymo]

I thought Smarty Jones would be an awesome stallion............Just another horrendous call on my part.. As for his turf prowess...I didnt know we had turf horses in this country?

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's " going home " because he's a huge failure as a sire.

I guess that makes his failure " nice. "

Yes even I can understand that.

My point is that his big fanbase is back home.

Failure or not this horse is adored back at home and always will be (rightly so). I don't think there are too many like him... Perfect Drift, Funny Cide, Evening Attire (and don't correct me cause yes I know they're geldings )... horses that have superstar status for individual reasons.

He'll have people wanting to see him in person for the rest of his life so while he might be a failure in one sense he will always be a champion.

Most people won't know why he's back home and I'd imagine the ones that do (know) won't care (as to the reasons why).

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Yes even I can understand that.

My point is that his big fanbase is back home.

Failure or not this horse is adored back at home and always will be (rightly so). I don't think there are too many like him... Perfect Drift, Funny Cide, Evening Attire (and don't correct me cause yes I know they're geldings )... horses that have superstar status for individual reasons.

He'll have people wanting to see him in person for the rest of his life so while he might be a failure in one sense he will always be a champion.

Most people won't know why he's back home and I'd imagine the ones that do (know) won't care (as to the reasons why).

Well put.. I know I still wear my "Smarty Jones" cap with pride

[philcski]

He was horribly overpriced at the jump at $100k and was almost assured to not match that lofty expectation. However, he's been successful at siring winners- this year he's hitting at over 50% (59 winners out of 112 runners) which puts him in good company. His downfall has been not siring the "big horse"- only 4 stakes winners this year, whereas other leading 3rd crop sires Speightstown, Medaglia D'Oro, and Tapit have 12, 14, and 11 respectively.

He'll do well in PA at $10k and quite frankly, there isn't much of an incentive to being a KY bred these days.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by philcski

He was horribly overpriced at the jump at $100k and was almost assured to not match that lofty expectation. However, he's been successful at siring winners- this year he's hitting at over 50% (59 winners out of 112 runners) which puts him in good company. His downfall has been not siring the "big horse"- only 4 stakes winners this year, whereas other leading 3rd crop sires Speightstown, Medaglia D'Oro, and Tapit have 12, 14, and 11 respectively.

He'll do well in PA at $10k and quite frankly, there isn't much of an incentive to being a KY bred these days.

3 Chimps mismanaged the book.. Ever since they ditched the Jew its been down hill

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by philcski

He'll do well in PA at $10k and quite frankly, there isn't much of an incentive to being a KY bred these days.

Horse folks have been telling the legislature this for years and that there would be an exodus of mares and stallions to the states with substantial stallion and breeder awards. This industry creates a lot of jobs in Kentucky, not just from the farms themselves but all the support industries - feed companies, fencing companies, horse goods stores, etc. But the state has been complacent, believing (one guesses) that Kentucky is The Center of the Horse World and nothing will ever change that.

[richard]

Seems like Smarty will make more money in Pa...That's probably why he's there. He's sired a lot of winners, including black type . What's the problem ?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by richard

Seems like Smarty will make more money in Pa...That's probably why he's there. He's sired a lot of winners, including black type . What's the problem ?

Other then his prodigy sux not much.. He was bred to a lot of wondeful mares although most believe his book was completely mismanaged. You could have bred pony to a lot of those mares and still got some runners.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Other then his prodigy sux not much.. He was bred to a lot of wondeful mares although most believe his book was completely mismanaged. You could have bred pony to a lot of those mares and still got some runners.

What does that mean, that his book was completely mismanaged?

No sarcasm intended.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Horse folks have been telling the legislature this for years and that there would be an exodus of mares and stallions to the states with substantial stallion and breeder awards. This industry creates a lot of jobs in Kentucky, not just from the farms themselves but all the support industries - feed companies, fencing companies, horse goods stores, etc. But the state has been complacent, believing (one guesses) that Kentucky is The Center of the Horse World and nothing will ever change that.

It's rare that we agree on something but we definitely do on this.

You can thank the hypocrite David Williams and his merry band of idiots for continually blocking alternative gaming which will continue to cause exodus from the state. Look how many mares have already left for Indiana...