Are the Patriots better without Randy Moss?

[Dahoss]

Drinks are on Meyer Lansky tonight.

[RockHardTen1985]

Now a first place tie. Tie for best record in the NFL and 2 big road wins, in the last 3 weeks.

[Dahoss]

Who has the tie breaker right now?

[Dahoss]

Since Moss left the Pats are 3-0 and look they might be the best team in the AFC, with the Jets, Dolphins, Ravens and Steelers all close.

Moss with the Vikings....1-4, the win by a fg over the Cowboys. The clubhouse is in a mess, not all his fault, but he helped.

I think it's safe to say the Pats are better without him.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Since Moss left the Pats are 3-0 and look they might be the best team in the AFC, with the Jets, Dolphins, Ravens and Steelers all close.

Moss with the Vikings....1-4, the win by a fg over the Cowboys. The clubhouse is in a mess, not all his fault, but he helped.

I think it's safe to say the Pats are better without him.

[Dahoss]

I might be a week too premature with that. I want to see how they play against the Ravens. They've only lost to us, the Pats and Steelers.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I might be a week too premature with that. I want to see how they play against the Ravens. They've only lost to us, the Pats and Steelers.

I think the Steelers are the best team in AFC... with Jets right behind them & Pats, Ravens etc.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Jets got shut out by the Packers at home.

How did the Vikings offense look in Green Bay one week prior?


The Patriots are freaking 4 points favorites over the Cleveland Browns this week. Anyone who's watched their last three games knows they got outplayed badly in all of them. Turnovers are gold. The Patriots defense is as good as it gets of late.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Jets got shut out by the Packers at home.

How did the Vikings offense look in Green Bay one week prior?


The Patriots are freaking 4 points favorites over the Cleveland Browns this week. Anyone who's watched their last three games knows they got outplayed badly in all of them. Turnovers are gold. The Patriots defense is as good as it gets of late.

You're losing it. The Jets had 360 yards of offense and lost because of two bullshit calls on interceptions and uncharacteristic drops by the WRs. The Packers' defense was good but it sure as hell wasn't dominant.

Enjoy being a Rams 'fan'. You're not gonna get an argument from me that the Pats are unbelievably fortunate to be 6-1.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Since Moss left the Pats are 3-0 and look they might be the best team in the AFC, with the Jets, Dolphins, Ravens and Steelers all close.

Moss with the Vikings....1-4, the win by a fg over the Cowboys. The clubhouse is in a mess, not all his fault, but he helped.

I think it's safe to say the Pats are better without him.

1-3.

They lost road games to the Jets, Packers, and Patriots ... underdogs in all games and basically had a good chance to win every game.

Of course, Brett Favre having elbow tendonitis, getting caught cheating on his cancer stricken wife with penis texts one day before Moss got there - and Favre losing three fumbles on snaps, throwing INT's to linebackers, and playing through two fractures in ankles helped.

You're right - The Vikings should have killed the Jets in NY, KILLED the Packers in GB, KILLED the Pats in foxboro where they haven't lost a regular season game with Brady since 2006.

I agree with your underlying claim that the Minnesota Vikings are the best team in the NFL with Moss .. and had absolutely no business losing any of those three road games.

After all - with Favre healthy, before any penis texts, they had an offense that ranked 32nd in the NFL in scoring .. and the only win they had was a come from behind home win over the Lions.

The healthy Favre with a happy Cancer stricken wife pre penis texts almost got shut out at home by the Miami Dolphins and turned it over 5 times.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

1-3.

They lost road games to the Jets, Packers, and Patriots ... underdogs in all games and basically had a good chance to win every game.

Of course, Brett Favre having elbow tendonitis, getting caught cheating on his cancer stricken wife with penis texts one day before Moss got there - and Favre losing three fumbles on snaps, throwing INT's to linebackers, and playing through two fractures in ankles helped.

You're right - The Vikings should have killed the Jets in NY, KILLED the Packers in GB, KILLED the Pats in foxboro where they haven't lost a regular season game with Brady since 2006.

I agree with your underlying claim that the Minnesota Vikings are the best team in the NFL with Moss .. and had absolutely no business losing any of those three road games.

After all - with Favre healthy, before any penis texts, they had an offense that ranked 32nd in the NFL in scoring .. and the only win they had was a come from behind home win over the Lions.

The healthy Favre with a happy Cancer stricken wife pre penis texts almost got shut out at home by the Miami Dolphins and turned it over 5 times.

The point is the Pats are better without him. You can make all of the excuses you want. They are.

[Dahoss]

Anyone still think the Pats aren't better without Moss? Are the Titans better with him?