Nancy Pelosi, Communist?

[otisotisotis]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Utopia, as written by Sir Thomas More, is a work of fiction, and was meant as a parody when it was written.

I get your point -- but I do think that the Republican point of view is more universally applicable. I would paraphrase it as "those who work for the money should get to keep as much of it as possible. As a result, government is obligated to spend as little as possible. In this way freedom is maximized and the burdens of taxation would be minimized."

There is nothing in that kind of sentiment that screams "for the rich only", despite all the extreme comments from the left.

i read that and think 'Let them eat cake!".

[gales0678]

it's not been working washington for many years

harry reid and pelosi are part of the swamp

it's time for it to be drained

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by otisotisotis

i read that and think 'Let them eat cake!".

I don't see how you draw that from my comments. We would want the little guy to be able to keep as much of his as possible too.

Even with a flat tax rate, which we'd never see, the amounts would be fair. 10% tax is 10% tax, whether on $100,000 , a million, or 100 million.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I don't see how you draw that from my comments. We would want the little guy to be able to keep as much of his as possible too.

Even with a flat tax rate, which we'd never see, the amounts would be fair. 10% tax is 10% tax, whether on $100,000 , a million, or 100 million.

Yes, but the tax rate would have to be more around 20-26%, to equal what is taken in now with taxes.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, but the tax rate would have to be more around 20-26%, to equal what is taken in now with taxes.

That's where the spending cuts come in. But at least we're agreed that there would be no need for income "brackets".

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

That's where the spending cuts come in. But at least we're agreed that there would be no need for income "brackets".

I wish the flat tax was put into effect 30 years ago, when we could have afforded it and it was far more doable.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

I wish the flat tax was put into effect 30 years ago

I gotta stop agreeing with you like this... LOL.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

That's where the spending cuts come in. But at least we're agreed that there would be no need for income "brackets".

I have seen the entire GOP talk about "spending cuts", but I have never seen a list of specific items to be cut, adding up to a specific amount. They refuse to answer that one.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have seen the entire GOP talk about "spending cuts", but I have never seen a list of specific items to be cut, adding up to a specific amount. They refuse to answer that one.

cut defense , medicare by 20% across the board

get rid of the dept of labor , education , agriculture

raise the retirement age on ssi to 70

requre all new gov't employees at all levels to contribute to their pension and to their healtcare

those are a start riot , what do you think ?

[Nascar1966]

Calling Pelosi a communist is being too nice to her.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

cut defense , medicare by 20% across the board

get rid of the dept of labor , education , agriculture

raise the retirement age on ssi to 70

requre all new gov't employees at all levels to contribute to their pension and to their healtcare

those are a start riot , what do you think ?

I think the above is more generalized political babble.

Show me what particular 20% part of Medicare you're going to eliminate (what actual services you are taking away, and from whom) Name the services and the amount.

Same with defense.

You get rid of the Dept of Labor, Education and Agriculture (and give me a plan for doing it) what do you do with the disaster that immediately ensues from the programs that are - poof - gone?

I like the last one. How much? Give some dollar amounts.