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[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I can't wait to bet Paco Boy. He's 0-3 against Goldikova but the possibility of a fast pace and firmer turf course could be the equalizer.

Any guess as to what the Kova/Paco and Paco/Kova exactas pay? I know it's always risky banking on multiple shippers, but they're so much better than everyone else if I can get $15-$16 it might be a box worth making IMO.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Any guess as to what the Kova/Paco and Paco/Kova exactas pay? I know it's always risky banking on multiple shippers, but they're so much better than everyone else if I can get $15-$16 it might be a box worth making IMO.

You think 3-1 is really fair odds there?

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Any guess as to what the Kova/Paco and Paco/Kova exactas pay? I know it's always risky banking on multiple shippers, but they're so much better than everyone else if I can get $15-$16 it might be a box worth making IMO.

I have been thinking about this and was just gonna ask what ballpark figure you would put it at?

I know you said somewhere else you cant see him being much higher than 5-1 but if Proviso and GioPonti also go, I can see him being 4th favourite at best and being double digits. He is available at 7-1 over here right now.

[hockey2315]

Goldikova is better than Paco Boy - do we really think the possibly firmer turf is going to make a difference. If someone beats her, it'll probably be Sidney's Candy or Gio (barring some up and coming Euro).

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Goldikova is better than Paco Boy - do we really think the possibly firmer turf is going to make a difference. If someone beats her, it'll probably be Sidney's Candy or Gio (barring some up and coming Euro).

The pace is going to make a difference. I'm not saying it's going to hinder her at all, but I think a fast pace is going to help him and it's not like miles are separating the two of them.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Goldikova is better than Paco Boy - do we really think the possibly firmer turf is going to make a difference. If someone beats her, it'll probably be Sidney's Candy or Gio (barring some up and coming Euro).

Don't you make a living betting the "Other Euro"

[jms62]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Any guess as to what the Kova/Paco and Paco/Kova exactas pay? I know it's always risky banking on multiple shippers, but they're so much better than everyone else if I can get $15-$16 it might be a box worth making IMO.

You will take 16 bucks in a 10-12 horse field?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

You think 3-1 is really fair odds there?

Originally Posted by jms62

You will take 16 bucks in a 10-12 horse field?

Yep. They're on another planet from Gio Ponti and Sidney's Candy. Judging by your responses, I'll probably do better than $16, which answers my question.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yep. They're on another planet from Gio Ponti and Sidney's Candy. Judging by your responses, I'll probably do better than $16, which answers my question.

I dont see how Gio Ponti has a chance, is he going to outkick Gold, Paco, and Proviso? Sidneys Candy is dangerous, what if he totally freaks again, hes the only horse who can still move way up.

[cakes44]

Yeah well Araafa should have been a lock the last time it was at Churchill. There are alot of things that can happen in the Mile, and I'm giving Gio Ponti a big chance here. His kick matches up with these if he can get a trip IMO.