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Old 10-18-2010, 12:20 AM
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There are zero scenarios given the field right now where I think Quality Road can win, especially at anything close to single digits... and I'm a fan of the horse and his performances throughout his career.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:22 AM
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There are zero scenarios given the field right now where I think Quality Road can win, especially at anything close to single digits... and I'm a fan of the horse and his performances throughout his career.
What about jocks on other horses letting QR get loose on the lead?

Not that I think QR will win, but hey, I've seen those jocks do some pretty stupid things.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:48 AM
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What about jocks on other horses letting QR get loose on the lead?

Not that I think QR will win, but hey, I've seen those jocks do some pretty stupid things.
.....thats what they should try. get the lead right out of there.....use the horses best asset,his natural speed.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:25 AM
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He is the fastest horse in the race. Everyone questions the last 1/8th and that may indeed prove to be his undoing, but I give him a big shot.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:34 AM
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He is the fastest horse in the race. Everyone questions the last 1/8th and that may indeed prove to be his undoing, but I give him a big shot.
i agree, the last 50 yards could be it...but he could find himself with slow fractions and get brave. speed is always a threat, haynesfield just proved it. but, i don't agree with the original thread. what are looking at lucky's issues????? he wins too much???? don't get it, i think LAL will be overlooked a little. hes pretty much the only 3 yo that belongs with these unless a foreign entity arrives.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:48 AM
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I'm not high on QR for the classic. As others have mentioned, his last race did not inspire confidence, especially with the way Blame came back last time. Considering the quality and size of the field, the distance, and the presence of other speeds, I don't see how he gets such an easy trip that he can also carry his speed for that extra furlong.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:11 AM
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Unless significant defections occur, I see no chance Quality Road is lone speed.... unless lone speed is a one length lead going 22 change, 44 change... and him getting 10 furlongs short of a bias going that fast against this group? I don't see it.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:52 AM
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i agree, the last 50 yards could be it...but he could find himself with slow fractions and get brave. speed is always a threat, haynesfield just proved it. but, i don't agree with the original thread. what are looking at lucky's issues????? he wins too much???? don't get it, i think LAL will be overlooked a little. hes pretty much the only 3 yo that belongs with these unless a foreign entity arrives.

If you think the master plan is to put him on the lead your wrong. He will be stalking 3rd or 4th around the track. Then when its time to run, hopefully the push button QR is back.
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Old 10-18-2010, 08:18 PM
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So you dont think that the weights will make a differance going 1 1/4 miles on the dirt?

Qr will carry 126
LAL will carry 122
Z will carry 123

Quality Road has a problem with giving the 3yo LAL 4 lbs and Zenyatta gets 3lbs.

QR just might be off the board.
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Old 10-18-2010, 08:25 PM
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So you dont think that the weights will make a differance going 1 1/4 miles on the dirt?

Qr will carry 126
LAL will carry 122
Z will carry 123

Quality Road has a problem with giving the 3yo LAL 4 lbs and Zenyatta gets 3lbs.

QR just might be off the board.
If Quality Road loses I'm confident it will have next to nothing to do with weight.
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Old 10-18-2010, 08:27 PM
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the horse is game and has a killer instinct...he hits the board and damnit i still think he can win!
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:18 PM
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the horse is game and has a killer instinct...he hits the board and damnit i still think he can win!
That's the great thing about horse racing. You can backup your opinion and even profit from it!
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:26 AM
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I think it's between Zenyatta and Looking at Lucky.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:28 AM
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:39 AM
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wonder what a 2 tri Q.R. / BLAME / Z.....would pay
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:22 AM
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wonder what a 2 tri Q.R. / BLAME / Z.....would pay
(the $2 exacta probable)X(field size-2)divided by 2.
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:45 PM
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If QR goes to the lead and tries to slow the pace he lets other speed horses like Haynesfield, Espoir City, Morning Line and First Dude into the race. He creates a crush on the front end.
The way to take those runners out is to go fast enough early to discourage them. Then, if he takes that approach, what happens when real quality closers like Z, LaL and Blame all come running?
QR was not exactly covered in glory by the comeback performances of horses exiting the Woodward, which may have been the weakest renewal ever of that event. The 2nd and 3rd place runners were each last in their follow up races and clearly have no BC aspirations.
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Old 10-18-2010, 03:31 PM
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What about jocks on other horses letting QR get loose on the lead?

Not that I think QR will win, but hey, I've seen those jocks do some pretty stupid things.
Definitely a possbility, always is. I don't think I see it here though. Who is going to let Quality Road loose out there?

Based on Steve's list, here are horses with early speed and/or pressing speed...

Espoir City
Etched
First Dude
Haynesfield
Morning Line
Quality Road

... even if one or to stumble/defect, there's still plenty of gas.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:39 PM
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Definitely a possbility, always is. I don't think I see it here though. Who is going to let Quality Road loose out there?

Based on Steve's list, here are horses with early speed and/or pressing speed...

Espoir City
Etched
First Dude
Haynesfield
Morning Line
Quality Road

... even if one or to stumble/defect, there's still plenty of gas.
I don't think a fast pace will bother Quality Road ...in fact, a fast pace might bother Zenyatta a lot more than QR as counter intuitve as that sounds.

Here is what I mean ... these are two very fast paced races...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxfpmHO2_Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34G-d...eature=related

Zenyatta absolutely crawled home over a surface notorious for lightening fast come home times the one and only time in her life when she faced a very fast pace.

Temple City is an example of what can happen when a synthetic router moves to dirt and sees a brutally fast pace.
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