Shirreffs says Zenyatta deserves '10 Horse of the Year

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

"A slap in the face"

He needs a punch to the face. A slap in the face doesn't cut it. Maybe a good punch in the throat when he starts with the excuses.

seriously? He needs a punch in the face? What did he do to deserve that?

Originally Posted by eajinabi

seriously? He needs a punch in the face? What did he do to deserve that?

He earned you as a fan. That's enough for the guillotine.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

He earned you as a fan. That's enough for the guillotine.

Too bad your vote isnt counted when he goes to the HOF. What a shame!

[declansharbor]

Are there really people out there thinking that she somehow ISN'T going in the Classic? Anyone of the belief that she's not going needs to put their CLEAR disdain for the connections aside and remove their head from their a$$.

The Eagles have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl this year than her not going in that race.

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Too bad your vote isnt counted when he goes to the HOF. What a shame!

Well that's just devastating. Thank goodness we still have trainers that are competitive and don't base every decision they make on silly awards.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Well that's just devastating. Thank goodness we still have trainers that are competitive and don't base every decision they make on silly awards.

No they base every decision on sheet numbers...can't run em too often you know...there's a chance they might bounce.

[Clip-Clop]

Right now, Blind Luck deserves it more than Zenyatta.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Right now, Blind Luck deserves it more than Zenyatta.

Yes

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Right now, Blind Luck deserves it more than Zenyatta.

I think Z is 5-10 lenghts faster/better on any surface. Funny BL finds ways to lose. I think at least twice this year? Her wins are Kinda like Zenyatta, barley wins half the time.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by monipenny

A time 4 honoring yourself will soon be at a end. The plain truth of it is that Sheriff's body of work is brilliant:All-time winningest mare who has remained undefeated through 3 yrs of un-interrupted training practically.
Guy has a Kentucky Derby win on his resume w/ less then average animal of any quality that's won the Derby, but just ask Pletcher, Mott, Shug, Zito, Baffert, if they really give a flip what we or you really think.The aforementioned gentleman have won the big one and the others on the list have wanted just a chance but failed.
Sheriff's is now a private trainer for mostly a few select clients who want nothing other then to have there immence egos flattered by winning the big one's and gaining national recognition right? You think winning the Derby w/ Giacamo hurt his sales or left him wanting. HTFN, he just said thank you very much for the roses and went about having his name engeaved into history as a Ky Derby winning owner. Not bad in my book
Sheriff's and his wife who happens to be racing manager 4 the Moss' just go along there merry way winning races and garnering jealous rages of fits from the minions who despise them so.

Just to keep such a HUGE horse from being hurt is a feat in its self and I wonder if she would still be racing if she were on dirt.(her best surface)

[classhandicapper]

Quite honestly, I've been saying the same things as John Shirreffs all year and don't really have a major problem with the handling. IMO had she been east coast based and stayed home and faced just mares even though there was better racing outside of NY, no one would be saying a thing.

IMO there is one major issue that makes this debate so heated.

People have very strong and different opinions about synthetic racing in general, the quality of racing in CA overall, how best to measure the ability of synthetic horses because the racing is so different than dirt racing, and how to compare synthetic (or even turf horses) to dirt horses on a relative basis.

The problem for them this year is that the CA mare division was atrocious other than St Trinians and no one showed up at the Apple Blossom. So she beat absolutely nothing all year. It's impossible to make a case for HOTY in 2010 unless they win the Classic or run an outstanding race and finish ahead of all the other contenders for the title and the winner is a major upset.

[zippyneedsawin]

So Sheriffs runs her through pretty much the same campaign for the 3rd year in a row (campaigns that didn't get her HOY the past two years) and he thinks it's a slap in the face if she DOESN'T win the award?