10/9 (BEL): Champagne S., Frizette S., Jamaica H. (G1's)

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I agree with B@T, but UM might be a total freak show.
He is an early #1 on Joey S Derby 2011 Top 10. B@T is currently not ranked.

So you have an Indian Charlie, with one maiden win at 6F, ranked #1 on your 2011 Derby Top 10?

Makes sense.

[Indian Charlie]

What's that supposed to mean?

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What's that supposed to mean?

..nothing against you or your namesake.
It's just a little premature to annoint a horse who very well may be better suited to be a sprinter/miler as a legitimate Kentucky Derby candidate off one 6F maiden win.

When was the last time a Derby winner won their debut by open lengths sprinting as a 2-year old?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

..nothing against you or your namesake.
It's just a little premature to annoint a horse who very well may be better suited to be a sprinter/miler as a legitimate Kentucky Derby candidate off one 6F maiden win.

When was the last time a Derby winner won their debut by open lengths sprinting as a 2-year old?

Oh, ok. For a second there, I thought I'd have to be mean to you.

The answer to your question is 2010!

J/K. Horses like this never last long, and with PG1985 getting the mount on him, he's toast.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Oh, ok. For a second there, I thought I'd have to be mean to you.

The answer to your question is 2010!

J/K. Horses like this never last long, and with PG1985 getting the mount on him, he's toast.

Actually, I think Super Saver won his 2nd start, and it was going a mile.
The answer to my question was probably Smarty Jones. Didn't he win his debut at Philly by 6 or 7 lengths?

Of course Indian Charlies can produce classic distance horses, on both surfaces. I'm just not quite as excited about Uncle Mo's long-term potential as some people, but he's an exciting 2-year old, for sure.

[Indian Charlie]

Interesting Ragozin take on Uncle Mo.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ne-stakes.aspx

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Interesting Ragozin take on Uncle Mo.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...ne-stakes.aspx

Always good to see their misinterpretations that have led to horses racing four times a year and once every two months during peak times.

Uncle Mo will likely run a lower fig because he earned his debut figure on a track playing very kindly to inside speed and is now stretching out a quarter of a mile on a fair racetrack. A lower fig with be neither a regression, nor a bounce, but a logical result of very different circumstances.

The hooey that has helped destroy high level racing. Then again, maybe some people think Blame benefited from his two months off after the Whitney.