Republicans block bill to lift military gay ban

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Honu

Jeez do you really think Im that simple?I have a right to work in the private sector with no discrimination.

Actually, no you don't. That's why it's called the private sector. There is no federal law protecting gays from discrimination in privately owned businesses. That's why the Boy Scouts can kick out gay members and why eHarmony doesn't have to accept gay customers. Private business has every right to discriminate based on sexual orientation. It's the law of the land. Your employer may choose to not discriminate because they understand it's wrong, or you may work in a state that bans discrimination based on sexual preference (about half do), but it is not against federal law for private business to discriminate against you.

Gays are, however, protected from discrimination in federal jobs, other than the biggest government employer there is, the US military.

[clyde]

Honula..there is a hint to what you speak in the Dec. of Ind.




Why the doorknobs failed to stick it in the constitution,I'll never know.

[clyde]

One more thing,Honula baby...GenuineCrazyLady is trying to mock you.



But don't bite her---she has muff teeth.

[joeydb]

There has to be a constructive answer to this. A few points:

1. Gay Americans who want to serve their country have every right to do so, and their service is as vital as anyone else's and should be respected accordingly.

2. Just as when the decision to let women serve in the military was made, this presents challenges not previously encountered when it was a single-sex unit. For example, we separate the sexes into different quarters for sleeping, showering, and any other suitably private activities. We don't let male and female G.I's use the same multiperson showers at the same time.

As previous posters in this thread have pointed out, it would be a ridiculous and sweeping generalization to think that every gay serviceman wants to be romantically involved with straights. And the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" situation, while possibly understandable in the short term when it was introduced, is not a good long term solution.

And, also as pointed out earlier, male, female, gay, straight -- they all serve together, and on the battlefield none of those distinctions matter. What matters is loyalty to the country and fellow members of the armed forces, competence, honor and all the good qualities that the military instills.

So, the question is, what REASONABLE modifications could be made to the existing setup to make everybody reasonably comfortable, once they get used to it. Again, the inclusion of females in the past should be our guide for the future.

[Riot]

In the military, gays are currently sleeping and showing with same-sex straights.

So everything will change when gays are no longer forced to hide or deny their sexual preferences in order to serve their country and have the job of soldier.

I suggest the military create "straights only!" sleeping and shower zones.

I don't know how they would then keep out gays and their gay cooties.

Maybe if the gays just keep quiet about being gay.

Or try this: straight males and females sleep and shower in one facility, and gay men and women sleep and shower in another. Because it's all about sex.

[clyde]

Am waiting for Stevie-poo to come out of the closet right here..in this thread.



Come on Homo--you can do it!!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

In the military, gays are currently sleeping and showing with same-sex straights.

So everything will change when gays are no longer forced to hide or deny their sexual preferences in order to serve their country and have the job of soldier.

I suggest the military create "straights only!" sleeping and shower zones.

I don't know how they would then keep out gays and their gay cooties.

Maybe if the gays just keep quiet about being gay.

Or try this: straight males and females sleep and shower in one facility, and gay men and women sleep and shower in another. Because it's all about sex.

I should get a bunk with all females.

But really... nothing should change except DADT being repealed. Its working just fine now.. and its not like people dont realize who their fellow gay soilders are. They already bunk with them, shower with them. Its not like once DADT is repealed, all the gays will now force rainbow helmets on everyone.

Those freakin Homo's ruin everything! They should just shut up and pray to get saved and become Un-Homo!

[clyde]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Actually, no you don't. That's why it's called the private sector. There is no federal law protecting gays from discrimination in privately owned businesses. That's why the Boy Scouts can kick out gay members and why eHarmony doesn't have to accept gay customers. Private business has every right to discriminate based on sexual orientation. It's the law of the land. Your employer may choose to not discriminate because they understand it's wrong, or you may work in a state that bans discrimination based on sexual preference (about half do), but it is not against federal law for private business to discriminate against you.

Gays are, however, protected from discrimination in federal jobs, other than the biggest government employer there is, the US military.

GCL,


I would like to make up with you..even after all the tasteless, disgusting and completely vile things you have said to me without any legitimate sense of what activities a civilized person should conduct themselves

That said...may I have a photo of your bush?




pleeeeeease?