Rachel Alexandra Retired

[iamthelurker]

This is definitely foreshadowing that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao isn't gonna happen either.

[slotdirt]

Can we start a petition to get iamthelurker to go back to doing what he does best, i.e., lurking?

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Can we start a petition to get iamthelurker to go back to doing what he does best, i.e., lurking?

You have a lot of posts.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

This is definitely foreshadowing that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao isn't gonna happen either.

lol

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

This is definitely foreshadowing that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao isn't gonna happen either.

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

Though I agree, what would you rather see?

[iamthelurker]

I gotta stop posting, clearly not lurking anymore, clyde I'm coming for you, you just wont know when...

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

Though I agree, what would you rather see?

Don't get me wrong, I want the fight to go, just resigned to the fact it isn't going to happen. Much like I was with the RA/Zen race we all wanted. Plenty of blame to go around too in both situations.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Don't get me wrong, I want the fight to go, just resigned to the fact it isn't going to happen. Much like I was with the RA/Zen race we all wanted. Plenty of blame to go around too in both situations.

+1

[slotdirt]

Debbie Downer voice or Dudley Do Right voice? What did I say that isn't true?

In any event, it has nothing to do with being old (which I am most definitely not), but more to do with seeing things how they are. Racing is a sport that isn't carried financially by its stars and it will always be that way. Nothing anybody can do to change it.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Debbie Downer voice or Dudley Do Right voice? What did I say that isn't true?

In any event, it has nothing to do with being old (which I am most definitely not), but more to do with seeing things how they are. Racing is a sport that isn't carried financially by its stars and it will always be that way. Nothing anybody can do to change it.

^ Not accepting his age OR satisfaction from pessimism?

[slotdirt]

One man's pessimism is another man's realism. And age isn't anything but a number. Zing.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

One man's pessimism is another man's realism. And age isn't anything but a number. Zing.

Zing...ok your not old.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Sad to say, as one of the remaining fans (I bet often but will still watch and enjoy if I am not) of both sports (probably born about 50 years too late) that I agree, it is a loss to the fans, but fans don't give up on a sport because on event doesn't go. As far as creating new fans...Mayweather v. Pac-Man would not, fight would be too scientific for the casual observer, go the distance and be a scorecard rout, IMO Pac has no D. While we all so badly wanted to see RA v Z nobody is going to give up on horse racing because it didn't happen.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Sad to say, as one of the remaining fans (I bet often but will still watch and enjoy if I am not) of both sports (probably born about 50 years too late) that I agree, it is a loss to the fans, but fans don't give up on a sport because on event doesn't go. As far as creating new fans...Mayweather v. Pac-Man would not, fight would be too scientific for the casual observer, go the distance and be a scorecard rout, IMO Pac has no D. While we all so badly wanted to see RA v Z nobody is going to give up on horse racing because it didn't happen.

I do believe that fans give up on a sport because big events dont go. Perhaps not one singular event, but the frustration levels eventually lead to a breaking point. I won't buy Pac/Margarito as I didnt buy Mosley/Mora. They just arent compelling events. I'm not the only one that feels this way. I dont think that Pacquio would let any fight be scientific. His willingness to take punches may work against him in a fight against mayweather. But he would certainly score more against mayweather than the over the hill gang that he has been facing and Floyd is a great frontrunner who may fight a little different if he was faced with real adversity. Not to mention that I can't see a guy who constantly has money problems passing up upwards of 50 million for a fight he truly thinks he will win.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I do believe that fans give up on a sport because big events dont go. Perhaps not one singular event, but the frustration levels eventually lead to a breaking point. I won't buy Pac/Margarito as I didnt buy Mosley/Mora. They just arent compelling events. I'm not the only one that feels this way. I dont think that Pacquio would let any fight be scientific. His willingness to take punches may work against him in a fight against mayweather. But he would certainly score more against mayweather than the over the hill gang that he has been facing and Floyd is a great frontrunner who may fight a little different if he was faced with real adversity. Not to mention that I can't see a guy who constantly has money problems passing up upwards of 50 million for a fight he truly thinks he will win.

First Bold, great point, I am not there yet for sure but you never know.
Second Bold, if they let Antonio cheat again that would be a great fight.
As far as the fight analysis, we may never know sadly. I have rooted against Floyd over and over and thought that many of the guys would give him some real adversity. Still haven't seen it. Perhaps Manny would be the one to press him hard enough but hand speed at the level he competes is often too much for anybody to deal with.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

First Bold, great point, I am not there yet for sure but you never know.
Second Bold, if they let Antonio cheat again that would be a great fight.
As far as the fight analysis, we may never know sadly. I have rooted against Floyd over and over and thought that many of the guys would give him some real adversity. Still haven't seen it. Perhaps Manny would be the one to press him hard enough but hand speed at the level he competes is often too much for anybody to deal with.

Mayweather's hand speed frustrates the hell out of fighters when combined with his great defensive skills. But the difference between most fighters and Pacquio is that Pacquio has great hand speed as well and will take a shot to give one. IMO his speed and quickness will lead to him connecting on a far greater % of punches than Mayweather is used to. I understand that De la Hoya is washed up but Pacquio scored far easier against him than Mayweather was able to. And I don't think that mayweathers power will bother him. Once he takes the best of what Floyd has to give, I can see pacquio coming in and be willing to trade shots. Mayweather's ego may force him to stand in and do the same which would IMO be a huge mistake. If Floyd runs and Pacquio is able to be the aggressor and land a sufficient number of punches, he would win a decision. It is really a great matchup and a disgrace that mayweather won't stop the bs and make the fight.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Not really. Didn't you read this thread Chuck?
RA was so tired after the Woodward that she was never able to run fast again for the rest of her life. Every horsey-board dunce could see that so they probably wouldn't have shown up to watch/bet anyway since RA obviously wouldn't have had a chance.