Unless the Packers score 30 points or more tonight...

[philcski]

Originally Posted by clyde

Of course..pretty obvious.They fucl<ed with the game because offense brings in more money.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Couple things to note- I never said it was the be all-end all. Your stats prove how important having a good defense is. Of course there are exceptions, but you have to be able to stop your opposition. This is true for most of the major sports. Getting back the the crux of the thread, the Pats can't stop anyone right now. Because of this it's going to be extremely hard for them to make the playoffs.

"Defense wins championships" is saying "be all end all" in my opinion. Maybe that's not to the degree that you meant.

Because of their schedule, the Pats will probably make the playoffs (and lose in the first round.) They have three road games against Buffalo, Detroit, and Cleveland- which means they could lose a game at home and still be 10-6 which should be good enough. If they get one of Miami (unlikely), SD (possible), Pitt (very unlikely), Chicago (possible)- they are 11-5 and definitely in. Jets also have the same trifecta on the road which is huge for their chances of winning the division, because at this point all they need to do is keep pace with the tiebreakers in the pocket. Miami, on the other hand, gets trips to GB, CIN, BAL, OAK, NYJ, and NE left- so even with the two road wins in hand have only 1 game left where they will definitely be favored. And even in that game, Oakland is putrid but not Buf-Det-Cle bad. They are a missed chip shot from 2-1 right now. It would be tough for the AFC East to get both wild cards, because either Cincy, Balt, or Indy/Hou/Tenn will probably get one of them, so it's a 3 for 2.

[clyde]

With more rule changes than you mentioned ,ThePhilski......it's Defense wins titles a lot more than offense.


I'll take the best def. over the best off.... every time.

[Scav]

I can't figure out if both these teams are just really bad or if the Bears really do have a chance this year.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

I can't figure out if both these teams are just really bad or if the Bears really do have a chance this year.

They both suck.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by clyde

With more rule changes than you mentioned ,ThePhilski......it's Defense wins titles a lot more than offense.


I'll take the best def. over the best off.... every time.

I also take best defense over best offense, even with the rule changes. If I were to pick a SB winner right now it would be the Steelers for that reason. But it certainly has opened up the opportunities to the 2009 Saints and 2006 Colts of the world.

Unfortunately, my team has chosen to take both the worst offense and one of the worst defenses.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by philcski

I also take best defense over best offense, even with the rule changes. If I were to pick a SB winner right now it would be the Steelers for that reason. But it certainly has opened up the opportunities to the 2009 Saints and 2006 Colts of the world.

Unfortunately, my team has chosen to take both the worst offense and one of the worst defenses.

Yes...That's the way I mean it,too.



Sorry about your team.

Who are they?

[clyde]

Oh, the rule works even better in college fb.




Ohio State vs. Miami being the classic example.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by clyde

Yes...That's the way I mean it,too.



Sorry about your team.

Who are they?

He likes the Canadian BillieGoats

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Scav

He likes the Canadian BillieGoats

Oh mine Got!!




ror!!

[Scav]

I can't believe the Bears won this game...

Monday night home dogs come through again.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

I can't believe the Bears won this game...

That was one of the worst games I've ever seen. The funny thing is Chicago will probably beat the lousy Giants too, but Cutler is awful and the Packers should be embarrassed forever that they lost that game.

Originally Posted by Scav

I can't believe the Bears won this game...

I said the same about the Cards game.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

He likes the Canadian BillieGoats

I am also a not so closet Eagles fan, and a closet Bengals fan.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by philcski

I am also a not so closet Eagles fan, and a closet Bengals fan.

How can you be a fan of more then one NFL team?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by clyde

Yes...That's the way I mean it,too.



Sorry about your team.

Who are they?

Buffalo.


One statistic to winning in the NFL that is very difficult to overcome...?

2009 Saints +11
2008 Steelers +4
2007 Giants -9 (!)
2006 Colts +7
2005 Steelers +7
2004 Patriots +9
2003 Patriots +17
2002 Bucs +17
2001 Patriots +7
2000 Ravens +23

[Dahoss]

Has to be turnovers

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Has to be turnovers

Yes.

And the Jets and Steelers are #1.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by philcski

Buffalo.


One statistic to winning in the NFL that is very difficult to overcome...?

2009 Saints +11
2008 Steelers +4
2007 Giants -9 (!)
2006 Colts +7
2005 Steelers +7
2004 Patriots +9
2003 Patriots +17
2002 Bucs +17
2001 Patriots +7
2000 Ravens +23

Yeah - the 2007 Giants were in the top 10 in both fumbles lost and interceptions thrown.

Just on the final Super Bowl winning drive - they should have been intercepted three different times alone.

Asante Samuel dropped a gift rapped INT.

The David Tyree reception was one of the worst passes in NFL history. He threw a floater straight up in the air - across his body - and so late all the routes were breaking off .... passes like that get picked off all the time ... instead some scrub catches it off of the back of his helmet.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by philcski

Buffalo.


One statistic to winning in the NFL that is very difficult to overcome...?

2009 Saints +11
2008 Steelers +4
2007 Giants -9 (!)
2006 Colts +7
2005 Steelers +7
2004 Patriots +9
2003 Patriots +17
2002 Bucs +17
2001 Patriots +7
2000 Ravens +23

A salient point.






And oh my God!!