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Old 08-30-2010, 09:06 PM
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I don't think I saw an impressive race this weekend at the Spa, Rachel's race included.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:09 PM
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I don't think I saw an impressive race this weekend at the Spa, Rachel's race included.
If you weren't impressed by Uncle Mo then you need to adjust your standards for modern times.

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Old 08-30-2010, 09:11 PM
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If you weren't impressed by Uncle Mo then you need to adjust your standards for modern times.

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Could be. A nice debut. The 2 yr olds who seem to matter at a distance aren't running holes in the wind at Toga as 2 yr olds so take it for what its worth.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:14 PM
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Could be. A nice debut. The 2 yr olds who seem to matter at a distance aren't running holes in the wind at Toga as 2 yr olds so take it for what its worth.
Whether I think he's going to be good going forward is a different issue, his debut was extremely impressive.

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Old 08-30-2010, 09:16 PM
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Whether I think he's going to be good going forward is a different issue, his debut was extremely impressive.

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....Hard to care about anything Pletcher sends out. He's Rudy Rodriguez in better clothes.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:13 PM
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Whether I think he's going to be good going forward is a different issue, his debut was extremely impressive.

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He blew a couple of nice 2 yr olds away in that race. The west point and klaravich colts are both nice and the contessa horse is supposed to be a runner.

Uncle Mo is a freak.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:19 PM
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He blew a couple of nice 2 yr olds away in that race. The west point and klaravich colts are both nice and the contessa horse is supposed to be a runner.

Uncle Mo is a freak.
Nice based on what? They were all first time starters.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:35 PM
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Nice based on what? They were all first time starters.
Hype from connections for all that's worth. It will be fun to keep track of. I think the 1 could be any kind.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:09 AM
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Nice based on what? They were all first time starters.
Nice dapples.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:53 PM
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He blew a couple of nice 2 yr olds away in that race. The west point and klaravich colts are both nice and the contessa horse is supposed to be a runner.

Uncle Mo is a freak.
That's a very tough race to use also-rans for perspective since it was all firsters. The Contessa took CRAZY $, but barely left the gate, so it's hard to point to the hype surrounding him as a positive for Mo.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:50 AM
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That's a very tough race to use also-rans for perspective since it was all firsters. The Contessa took CRAZY $, but barely left the gate, so it's hard to point to the hype surrounding him as a positive for Mo.

The wizzard talked the Contessa up and bet him hard to win, if I remember correctly.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:00 AM
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That's a very tough race to use also-rans for perspective since it was all firsters. The Contessa took CRAZY $, but barely left the gate, so it's hard to point to the hype surrounding him as a positive for Mo.
Unfortunately I used this horse...that was a lot of money to pay for him.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:14 PM
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I don't think I saw an impressive race this weekend at the Spa, Rachel's race included.
Uncle Mo and Rapport?
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:16 PM
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Geez this would be an issue if Macho Again caught Rachel in the Woodward. Clearly 9 was the limit, and 10 was pushing it.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:50 PM
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Life at 10 has never gone off higher than 4-1 in her lifetime on dirt, how is she going to be an overlay in her next start? Unless she goes back to turf, but going off of her lone turf try that would be foolish. Furthermore doesn't she regress off of her duel with Rach? Doesn't seem like a great bet to me next out.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:31 PM
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Life at 10 has never gone off higher than 4-1 in her lifetime on dirt, how is she going to be an overlay in her next start? Unless she goes back to turf, but going off of her lone turf try that would be foolish. Furthermore doesn't she regress off of her duel with Rach? Doesn't seem like a great bet to me next out.
That's exactly the kind of reasoning that DrugS is saying is going to happen next time she runs.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:03 PM
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That's exactly the kind of reasoning that DrugS is saying is going to happen next time she runs.
I know his reasoning, I agree at times a bad last race on paper is a great betting angle, but when a horse has never been higher than 4-1 on dirt in her life, what odds are good odds? Say what you want about Rachel Alexandra, horses that have hooked her have not fared well in their next races. Ie. Unrivaled Belle, Zardana...ect.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:09 PM
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I know his reasoning, I agree at times a bad last race on paper is a great betting angle, but when a horse has never been higher than 4-1 on dirt in her life, what odds are good odds? Say what you want about Rachel Alexandra, horses that have hooked her have not fared well in their next races. Ie. Unrivaled Belle, Zardana...ect.
True enough.

It's an odd thing that in the three races RA has lost this year, it's been something like double digits lengths back to the third horse.
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