Verbal Abuse of Calvin Borel

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse Calvin Borel received walking back through the crowd to the jocks room after "Rachel" was defeated is simply an embarrassment to Saratoga Race Course and is an example of uneducated racing fans who follow this great game for 40 Days and couldn't tell you when the Belmont Fall meet opens. The great part of the Saratoga experience is the access and freedom fans have to horses, trainers, jockeys and other personalities throughout the horse industry. And five or ten idiots had to finish a great racing weekend by telling Calvin Borel what he should or shouldn't have done

LEARN THE GAME BEFORE YOU SPEAK!

Happens to me everyday as I leave HP after calling the races. Passionate game. Fan is short for fanatic. As long as it's not vulgar or personal( Big A exempt) I say If you buy a ticket on a horse you buy the right to complain about the ride. Calvin's a big boy. Chillax.

[Siena 16]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Happens to me everyday as I leave HP after calling the races. Passionate game. Fan is short for fanatic. As long as it's not vulgar or personal( Big A exempt) I say If you buy a ticket on a horse you buy the right to complain about the ride. Calvin's a big boy. Chillax.

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

Who cares?

Like everyone said.. not the first or last time he'll hear those words.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

So a jock that thinks nothing of floating his competitor significantly wide, so that he can gain an advantage, should be immune from getting it stuck up his ass when his tactics fail?

I realize most would consider this race riding and perfectly acceptable.

I'm not exactly a Borel or RA fan, so, let's say the ending was pretty sweet all around. Borel is the typical bully when he has the advantage (as are most). He can dish it out and he should be able to take it.

F u ck him. He looks real pretty when he styles but when it comes to crunch time he can't do what some of the great ones could: help their horse get to the wire.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

The bottom line is that this is a free country and people can say what they want. Losing money and drinking don't help folks act with class and dignity.

CB knows these truths and chose a public job that is open to scrutiny. He could have chosen another profession.

Stop crying a river for him.

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[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

So a jock that thinks nothing of floating his competitor significantly wide, so that he can gain an advantage, should be immune from getting it stuck up his ass when his tactics fail?

I realize most would consider this race riding and perfectly acceptable.

I'm not exactly a Borel or RA fan, so, let's say the ending was pretty sweet all around. Borel is the typical bully when he has the advantage (as are most). He can dish it out and he should be able to take it.

F u ck him. He looks real pretty when he styles but when it comes to crunch time he can't do what some of the great ones could: help their horse get to the wire.

Last I checked, Borel didn't say anything about fan treatment or comments. I'd say you are the harsh one.

And, for that matter, winning America's most prestigious race three out of four years, an unrivaled accomplishment in this country, oh - and being a half-decent guy, trumps some of your completely unsubstantiated generalities.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Last I checked, Borel didn't say anything about fan treatment or comments. I'd say you are the harsh one.

And, for that matter, winning America's most prestigious race three out of four years, an unrivaled accomplishment in this country, oh - and being a half-decent guy, trumps some of your completely unsubstantiated generalities.

Another one with interpretation issues.

Borel likes to style, 'race ride', and celebrate excessively. He got it stuck up his ass yesterday. Having lost plenty of times as a result of one of those rail skimming rides of his, and having to watch him with the fist pumping and kiss blowing, YES, I got some pleasure out of watching him get run down yesterday. Never wrote anything about Borel complaining. Just about how enjoyable it was to me.

He's jut a PUNK. He doesn't add anything to a horse. He certainly can't finish, even up, with any of the better jocks in the country. He's real good at those cute moves, however.

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

Sounds like a normal pizza and a movie night at my house.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Sounds like a normal pizza and a movie night at my house.

I didn't realize you were married to Stone Gossard.

[Indian Charlie]

Come to think of it, things now make sense with you two.

[clyde]

How can a thread like this inspire anything?






Tell me what you think about fans yelling and cursing him. Would you?Have you?Why?Why not? Did you come if you screamed at him? Why? Why not? Tell me..tell me right now.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

......you should have been at belmont when smarty jones got beat.

[ArlJim78]

He's a big boy and can handle a few loudmouths. but imo opinion he caused the best horse in the race to lose. He never had to worry about catching Life At Ten, he was always going to catch that one. All he had to do to win the race was to not get cute and do something stupid, but he just couldn't resist. I would never ride the guy in a big race except maybe in the derby or at Churchill.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

He's a big boy and can handle a few loudmouths. but imo opinion he caused the best horse in the race to lose. He never had to worry about catching Life At Ten, he was always going to catch that one. All he had to do to win the race was to not get cute and do something stupid, but he just couldn't resist. I would never ride the guy in a big race except maybe in the derby or at Churchill.

He knows his way around Oaklawn also...

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Happens to me everyday as I leave HP after calling the races. Passionate game. Fan is short for fanatic. As long as it's not vulgar or personal( Big A exempt) I say If you buy a ticket on a horse you buy the right to complain about the ride. Calvin's a big boy. Chillax.

Those are Derby trail fans

Originally Posted by Cardus

You had to, didn't you?

I had to what?

[Port Conway Lane]

More likely than not the jockeys are snickering to themselves knowing the idiot screaming obscenities lost his money.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

More likely than not the jockeys are snickering to themselves knowing the idiot screaming obscenities lost his money.

you're probably right. jocks are getting paid to be there, while bettors are paying to be there...yeah, i'm sure the riders feel abused.

[Princess Doreen]

What ground Rachel lost on the first turn didn't cost her the final furlong.
If a jock pushes a horse wide and wins, it's okay. If not the jock's a jerk. HELLO! Guess a lot of you weren't around when Cordero was riding.

I'm sure Calvin can put up with the losers who bet their rent money. One day you're a star and the next day it gets ripped it off the door. Fickle fans.

I'm one of Rachel's biggest fans, but I had cautious optimism about her winning this race.. I could analyze from now until doomsday, but the end result is she lost. I can deal with it and still think she is one of the greatest
3-year old fillies to ever grace the sport of racing. She carries her daddy's genes, and that includes never giving up even if she's running on heart alone.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

What ground Rachel lost on the first turn didn't cost her the final furlong.
If a jock pushes a horse wide and wins, it's okay. If not the jock's a jerk. HELLO! Guess a lot of you weren't around when Cordero was riding.

I

Ummmm

There's just a slight difference. When Cordero was on the speed going 2 turns at SAR, you weren't passing him in the stretch. This is because he actually was able to help his horses get to the wire. He, thus, was able to 'race ride'; as he could back it up when it counted. Jocks that can't finish with octogenarians (like Borel) really should just stick to riding 'normally'. Saving ground should be their top priority as they really can't make up for any ground loss late.