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Old 08-27-2010, 08:50 PM
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Seriously, how difficult is it to develop baseline blood chemistry levels and disqualify horses that exceed those levels? Removes all of this "well he's got the new juice that they can't detect" stuff (not that it isn't warranted).

They've been doing it in Cycling ( cue TFM) for years.

Serious question, not a vet, and don't pretend to be.... but a post race blood chemistry test would indicate elevated red blood cell levels ( eliminating EPO and other cancer management drugs) CO levels, and anything out of whack with a normal thoroughbred blood chemistry.

Would eliminate the need to figure out "How" they're cheating and hold them accountable for their monster "move ups"... If they tested at a level prior to a trainer getting them and performance enhancing levels are indicated after a move up, you get suspended - regardless of what you used...
Good idea in theory, but the cost is what will make it never happen.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:20 PM
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I hear ya Tom...Unfortunately it always seems to lead back to the same, tired discussion among industry insiders of expending funds (RE: take out) in lieu of limiting days and reducing tracks, - which , by the way would in turn rid juiced up POS's out of "Racinos" and getting the sport back to an actual sport... But I digress...

Realistically there is no reason that the sport can't attract as many gamblers as any other form...Gamblers these days simply have enough sense (and knowledge) to know when the game is rigged...which is why we muddle along, dealing with the same issues we dealt with back in the '40's....

Take the shot, dismiss the naysayer's, and see where we are. The cost of blood testing is insignificant relative to the exponential growth we can achieve if the betting public is convinced that the game is clean.... and Blood Chemistry Testing is the only realistic way to win them over.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:33 PM
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I hear ya Tom...Unfortunately it always seems to lead back to the same, tired discussion among industry insiders of expending funds (RE: take out) in lieu of limiting days and reducing tracks, - which , by the way would in turn rid juiced up POS's out of "Racinos" and getting the sport back to an actual sport... But I digress...

Realistically there is no reason that the sport can't attract as many gamblers as any other form...Gamblers these days simply have enough sense (and knowledge) to know when the game is rigged...which is why we muddle along, dealing with the same issues we dealt with back in the '40's....

Take the shot, dismiss the naysayer's, and see where we are. The cost of blood testing is insignificant relative to the exponential growth we can achieve if the betting public is convinced that the game is clean.... and Blood Chemistry Testing is the only realistic way to win them over.
I personally don't think that people are not playing the ponies because of drugs. Matter fact, the sharps know who has the good stuff and who doesn't.

Drug testing will never be regulated and consistent because there is no association. The NTRA and any other comedy association is just there to give some people a job and type up of some press releases about some medicore horse running.

What this industry needs is some young rock star that pisses people off, like a Mark Cuban, to cause a stir, do something like create a 'league', I don't know, and if comedy corporations like CDI or Magna don't want in, adios.

Plus, it isn't like if we had that type of blood testing that these bozos wouldn't figure out a way to beat it, it will ALWAYS be around like it always has.
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Old 08-28-2010, 11:05 PM
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Good idea in theory, but the cost is what will make it never happen.
This is the very reason the sport should be completely shut down. If they cannot afford to keep the sport legitimate, it shouldn't exitst.

How in the f^&%k can you have federal laws on the books which make it a felony to alter the outcome of a sporting event/wagering event and not have the means to enforce it?

The game needs to be stopped completely until they take seriously the need to run legitimate events.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:47 AM
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:26 PM
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Good article. Most positives are for trace amounts of common therapeutic meds that, no way, no how, could ever, remotely, possibly at those levels, have affected the outcome of a race.
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