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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i know that's who you're talking about. i also know the last time you started in about 'homosexual pedophiles' i posted the study that showed pedophiles in the vast majority of cases are not homosexual-they aren't attracted to men or women. they are attracted to children. and yes, priests have molested girls, but the vast majority are victims are boys. knowing how the catholic church operates, priests have far more opportunities to be alone with boys than with girls, hence the skewed numbers.
so, again, thanks for reading that a few weeks back. it shows you pay attention to the posts others put up here, and don't mind learning something you may not have known.

Again we're talking about apples and oranges. If your interpretation of the study relating to the Catholic church problem had validity the number of assaults would decrease, as the children got older not increase. Especially when 'children' hit puberty and started to become adults like in high school. I guess as ugly as the crime is so are the facts.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Again we're talking about apples and oranges. If your interpretation of the study relating to the Catholic church problem had validity the number of assaults would decrease, as the children got older not increase. Especially when 'children' hit puberty and started to become adults like in high school. I guess as ugly as the crime is so are the facts.

the study i am talking about is the one regarding the fiction of homosexuality leading to pedophilia. there is no link between the two at all.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the study i am talking about is the one regarding the fiction of homosexuality leading to pedophilia. there is no link between the two at all.

Then the abuse problems in the Catholic church have much more to do with homosexuality and much less to do with pedophilia. Which is what I suspected all along.

Because as you’ve stated if it were pedophilia it seems there would be far more assaults on 8yr olds (easier, more attractive victims) than say 15yr olds and girls would make up more than just a fraction of victims as they do now.

BTW I've heard all the priest little boy jokes I can handle but NEVER heard the priest and a little girl one.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Then the abuse problems in the Catholic church have much more to do with homosexuality and much less to do with pedophilia. Which is what I suspected all along.

Because as you’ve stated if it were pedophilia it seems there would be far more assaults on 8yr olds (easier, more attractive victims) than say 15yr olds and girls would make up more than just a fraction of victims as they do now.

BTW I've heard all the priest little boy jokes I can handle but NEVER heard the priest and a little girl one.

GSM.

Inside info!

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Female school teachers are on a sexual rampage on young male students but we're not denegrating Teachers are we? Let's give a couple million to their Union. Tax $$ aren't going to the Catholic Church are they?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Then the abuse problems in the Catholic church have much more to do with homosexuality and much less to do with pedophilia. Which is what I suspected all along.
Because as you’ve stated if it were pedophilia it seems there would be far more assaults on 8yr olds (easier, more attractive victims) than say 15yr olds and girls would make up more than just a fraction of victims as they do now.

BTW I've heard all the priest little boy jokes I can handle but NEVER heard the priest and a little girl one.

how the hell do you garner that from what i posted in this thread, and the other? lol there is NO connection between the two!! anyone going into the priesthood is giving up any shot of having a mate-it stands to reason that such a move would appeal to those who have no attraction to adults, of either sex. that's what the studies showed. priests and other child molesters don't do what they do because of homosexuality-most molesters have no sexuality. in other words, they never matured into sexual adults, hence their attraction to children, since that's where their 'sex life' remains. and like i said before, since priests have far more opportunities to be alone with boys than girls, it stands to reason that boys would be the predominant victim. the fact there are also female victims belies the whole homosexuality argument.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how the hell do you garner that from what i posted in this thread, and the other? lol there is NO connection between the two!! anyone going into the priesthood is giving up any shot of having a mate-it stands to reason that such a move would appeal to those who have no attraction to adults, of either sex. that's what the studies showed. priests and other child molesters don't do what they do because of homosexuality-most molesters have no sexuality. in other words, they never matured into sexual adults, hence their attraction to children, since that's where their 'sex life' remains. and like i said before, since priests have far more opportunities to be alone with boys than girls, it stands to reason that boys would be the predominant victim. the fact there are also female victims belies the whole homosexuality argument.

I 'garnered' it by looking at the evidence. The majority of victims are of adolesent age not pre-school. Agreeing homesexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia and the two are seperate the boys who are into their high school years are victims of homosexual priests not pedopheliac priests. And in my experience there are far more of those incidents as opposed to ones with little boys.

BTW I'm sure their are heterosexual priests as well but either they are keeping it in their pants or are ninjas.

[dellinger63]

BTW where does the MANBLA organization fit in to this?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I 'garnered' it by looking at the evidence. The majority of victims are of adolesent age not pre-school. Agreeing homesexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia and the two are seperate the boys who are into their high school years are victims of homosexual priests not pedopheliac priests. And in my experience there are far more of those incidents as opposed to ones with little boys.

BTW I'm sure their are heterosexual priests as well but either they are keeping it in their pants or are ninjas.

well, since you veer from pedo straight to homo, i thought i'd show you this, not that i think it will help you begin to see it is not a homosexual issue:

Sexual abuse by Catholic clergy became the subject of widespread publicly in 1984 with the celebrated case of Father Gilbert Gauthe in Lafayette, Louisiana. This led to numerous revelations of similar cases of abuse around the United States and in other countries as well. At the outset of the present era the crisis was erroneously referred to as a “pedophilia problem.” Experience has shown that only 20% of clergy perpetrators are true pedophiles while the majority are classified as ephebophiles since their victims are younger adolescents. The publicity generated from the abuse cases involving minor victims has also provoked revelations of widespread clergy sexual abuse of vulnerable adults, mostly women. In any event, the age and gender of the victim are irrelevant since the sexual encounter constitutes abusive behavior by a trusted clergyman perpetrated on one with less emotional strength and spiritual power than the priest and one who is in a vulnerable position from which he or she cannot mount an adequate defense.


so, what is ephebophilia?

Ephebophilia is the sexual preference of adults for mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.[1][2] The term was originally used in the late 19th to mid 20th century, and has been more recently revisited by Ray Blanchard.[2] It is one of a number of sexual preferences across age groups subsumed under the neologism of "chronophilia". Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction. In sexual ethics, it may be defined as a sexual preference for girls generally 14–16 years old, and boys generally 14–19 years old.[3] Some authors define ephebophilia as a sexual preference of pubescent and adolescent boys.[4]

homosexuality mean preference for others of the same sex. it does not mean preference for others of the same sex who are below a certain age. these priests are drawn to those who have not yet reached maturity. they don't or can't have relationships with others of their age. a power trip problem an underlying issue perhaps? a man with this would be referred to immediately as humbert humbert.
at any rate, a priest doesn't commit these crimes due to homosexuality. those priests hang out in gay bars, another issue that has been brought up about priests being forced into a 'celibate' lifestyle. straight priests have relationships with women, some of them leaving the church because they have no wish to be alone. but these criminals-they are warped individuals.

your statement that they prey on youth due to homosexuality is false.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Ephebophilia is the sexual preference of adults for mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.[1][2] The term was originally used in the late 19th to mid 20th century, and has been more recently revisited by Ray Blanchard.[2] It is one of a number of sexual preferences across age groups subsumed under the neologism of "chronophilia". Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction. In sexual ethics, it may be defined as a sexual preference for girls generally 14–16 years old, and boys generally 14–19 years old.[3] Some authors define ephebophilia as a sexual preference of pubescent and adolescent boys.[4]
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Why aren't epheboliliac/nuns acting out against girls? All nuns did in my experience was beat boys!