Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, Catholic priests that molest children have their own church protection system.

so Catholic priests are molesting children in the name of Jesus or are they molesting children because they are pedopheliacs who are also homosexual? Like terrorists are they reciting prayers as they go in?

The overwealming number of 'children' as you call them happen to be boys and I don't know why that is so often overlooked?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The overwealming number of 'children' as you call them happen to be boys and I don't know why that is so often overlooked?

What do you mean by "overlooked?" Who cares if the victims are male or female? The crime is the same either way, so why does the sex of the victim have any bearing on anything?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

What do you mean by "overlooked?" Who cares if the victims are male or female? The crime is the same either way, so why does the sex of the victim have any bearing on anything?

because Del likes to point out that pedophiles are homosexuals every single time he posts about it.

maybe he had bad experiences growing up as a Catholic boy?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

because Del likes to point out that pedophiles are homosexuals every single time he posts about it.

maybe he had bad experiences growing up as a Catholic boy?

Lori my comments of pedophilia and homosexuality in the same post have been strictly limited to Catholic priests, who I imagine in 12 years of school I've had a good deal more experience with than the average.

These 'predator' priests NEVER had anything to do with groups whether they be jocks or band members. They always concentrated on the outcasts who they sensed to be weak. It got so easy, within a few weeks of starting an all-boys Catholic high school the pedophiliac priests were just a wee bit easier to identify as their 'victims' IMO. And though Priests who were associated with churches, schools and parishes I've belonged to have been guilty not a single girl has been involved. And lets thank the lord for that.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Lori my comments of pedophilia and homosexuality in the same post have been strictly limited to Catholic priests, who I imagine in 12 years of school I've had a good deal more experience with than the average.

These 'predator' priests NEVER had anything to do with groups whether they be jocks or band members. They always concentrated on the outcasts who they sensed to be weak. It got so easy, within a few weeks of starting an all-boys Catholic high school the pedophiliac priests were just a wee bit easier to identify as their 'victims' IMO. And though Priests who were associated with churches, schools and parishes I've belonged to have been guilty not a single girl has been involved. And lets thank the lord for that.

i feel like i waste my time when i post fact-filled studies that belie comments like these, since these statements continue. who wants the truth when it's so much more fun to stick to the same old statements? oh well...

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i feel like i waste my time when i post fact-filled studies that belie comments like these, since these statements continue. who wants the truth when it's so much more fun to stick to the same old statements? oh well...

ignoring the fact we're talking about catholic priests

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

ignoring the fact we're talking about catholic priests

i know that's who you're talking about. i also know the last time you started in about 'homosexual pedophiles' i posted the study that showed pedophiles in the vast majority of cases are not homosexual-they aren't attracted to men or women. they are attracted to children. and yes, priests have molested girls, but the vast majority are victims are boys. knowing how the catholic church operates, priests have far more opportunities to be alone with boys than with girls, hence the skewed numbers.
so, again, thanks for reading that a few weeks back. it shows you pay attention to the posts others put up here, and don't mind learning something you may not have known.

[Danzig]

back to the original topic, not that i mind anyone going in a different direction when the mood strikes...

an informative piece from william dalrymple, in the new york times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/op...lrymple&st=cse


i suggest reading it, it helps to understand that although there is islam, there are differing attitudes and branches of the religion.

an excerpt:

For such moderate, pluralistic Sufi imams are the front line against the most violent forms of Islam. In the most radical parts of the Muslim world, Sufi leaders risk their lives for their tolerant beliefs, every bit as bravely as American troops on the ground in Baghdad and Kabul do. Sufism is the most pluralistic incarnation of Islam — accessible to the learned and the ignorant, the faithful and nonbelievers — and is thus a uniquely valuable bridge between East and West.

another:

While the West remains blind to the divisions and distinctions within Islam, the challenge posed by the Sufi vision of the faith is not lost on the extremists. This was shown most violently on July 2, when the Pakistani Taliban organized a double-suicide bombing of the Data Darbar, the largest Sufi shrine in Lahore, Pakistan’s second-largest city. The attack took place on a Thursday night, when the shrine was at its busiest; 42 people were killed and 175 were injured.


the last paragraph:

Sufism is an entirely indigenous, deeply rooted resistance movement against violent Islamic radicalism. Whether it can be harnessed to a political end is not clear. But the least we can do is to encourage the Sufis in our own societies. Men like Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf should be embraced as vital allies, and we should have only contempt for those who, through ignorance or political calculation, attempt to conflate them with the extremists.

[Riot]

Nice article, wrong thread. Post it over in Islamophobialand.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

These 'predator' priests NEVER had anything to do with groups whether they be jocks or band members. They always concentrated on the outcasts who they sensed to be weak. It got so easy, within a few weeks of starting an all-boys Catholic high school the pedophiliac priests were just a wee bit easier to identify as their 'victims' IMO. And though Priests who were associated with churches, schools and parishes I've belonged to have been guilty not a single girl has been involved. And lets thank the lord for that.

you wont hear an arguement from me about this

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

maybe he had bad experiences growing up as a Catholic boy?

And my only bad experience happened when I was in my late 20's and my bro. lived in Wrigleyville. A 'hopefully guy dressed as a priest' had a midget 'hopefully dressed as an altar-boy' on a dog leash. I was up 3 stories so it possibly could have been a priest with a altar-boy but I think they were walking home in costume following a parade. But let's not bash.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by miraja2

What do you mean by "overlooked?" Who cares if the victims are male or female? The crime is the same either way, so why does the sex of the victim have any bearing on anything?

because common sense says look at the pattern. It has no bearing unless 90% plus of victims happen to be of 1 of 2 sexes. But I know an old lady in a wheel chair can be a terrorist just like an angry Islamic, flight student.