Gary Stevens Breaks Collarbone and Pletcher Fined $200

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

200? How do they come up with these numbers?

How much should he have been fined? It is hardly a big offense especially considering the person in question has probably held hundreds of licenses in the past.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How much should he have been fined? It is hardly a big offense especially considering the person in question has probably held hundreds of licenses in the past.

A grand min.

[CSC]

Double that to $400 for also employing Angel Cordero.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

A grand min.

LOL

You do realize that Pletcher doesn't actually employ Stevens right?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

You do realize that Pletcher doesn't actually employ Stevens right?

So? Rules are rules.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

So? Rules are rules.

The rule is there to prevent people who arent qualified to get a license to work. It is a state rule and as such has to have a reasonable fine. For a clerical matter $200 is actually a big fine. People who smoke in the shedrow get $100 and that is a whole lot worse than Gary Stevens not getting an exercise license to work a horse.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The rule is there to prevent people who arent qualified to get a license to work. It is a state rule and as such has to have a reasonable fine. For a clerical matter $200 is actually a big fine. People who smoke in the shedrow get $100 and that is a whole lot worse than Gary Stevens not getting an exercise license to work a horse.

"We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tote handle that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way."

[trackrat59]

I would at least like to say that I feel sorry for the poor horse. RIP Thatcatismine.

After the incident Gary was interviewed by Stevie Haskins and said that was the best horse he's ever ridden. He then proceeded to curse, "Ow my f.uckin collarbone! Someone get me a glass of wine!"

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How much should he have been fined? It is hardly a big offense especially considering the person in question has probably held hundreds of licenses in the past.

I'm going to use this excuse!

But Officer, I've gone 65 mph hundereds of times in the past. <--- green puppy dog eyes

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I'm going to use this excuse!

But Officer, I've gone 65 mph hundereds of times in the past. <--- green puppy dog eyes

That's why they fined him!

Had it been Scav on the horse instead of a hall of fame jockey, the fine would probably be much higher and you would have no need at all for an autopsy.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

That's why they fined him!

Had it been Scav on the horse instead of a hall of fame jockey, the fine would probably be much higher and you would have no need at all for an autopsy.

Pretty good walk from Pletchers barn to main track. Had it been Scavs I don't think the horse would have made it that far.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I'm going to use this excuse!

But Officer, I've gone 65 mph hundereds of times in the past. <--- green puppy dog eyes

Uh you broke the law. Pletcher was just trying to help a friend get fit to ride in a stupid race.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Uh you broke the law. Pletcher was just trying to help a friend get fit to ride in a stupid race.

Uh Pletcher broke a rule.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Uh Pletcher broke a rule.

Seriously how petty can you guys get? He doesn't actually employ Stevens! And he was fined for the incident. Do you think he is the only trainer fined for this particular offense? The fine is a standard amount. Should he pay a higher fine than another trainer because he wins more races? I don't understand how any logical person could have an issue with this fine.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Seriously how petty can you guys get? He doesn't actually employ Stevens! And he was fined for the incident. Do you think he is the only trainer fined for this particular offense? The fine is a standard amount. Should he pay a higher fine than another trainer because he wins more races? I don't understand how any logical person could have an issue with this fine.

Means testing. For him, a few grand. Put it towards VLTs

[Round Pen]

OK here's the last part of the article i left out, But I quess I should have included it


"The standard fine for an unlicensed exercise rider is $100, but the stewards doubled the fine because they felt that a trainer of Pletcher's experience should have known better," Joe Mahoney of the NY State Racing and Wagering Board said. "The board will review the entire incident and is keeping its options open."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/horse...#ixzz0wnQRGOAw

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Means testing. For him, a few grand. Put it towards VLTs

Because you dont like him? Or because Gary Stevens is going to miss the exciting "legends" challenge and you like his mount?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Seriously how petty can you guys get? He doesn't actually employ Stevens! And he was fined for the incident. Do you think he is the only trainer fined for this particular offense? The fine is a standard amount. Should he pay a higher fine than another trainer because he wins more races? I don't understand how any logical person could have an issue with this fine.

Honestly, I have no issues with the amount of the fine, I just giggled that you of all people thought someone shouldn't be held to the same standard because of who they are.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Honestly, I have no issues with the amount of the fine, I just giggled that you of all people thought someone shouldn't be held to the same standard because of who they are.

If Gary Stevens came to my barn in the same situation I would have to say that I would probably not think to ask to see his license. Stevens is an employee in the loosest definition. The rule is in place so that people dont hire undocumented workers or people with criminal pasts, not to prevent Hall of fame jockeys from getting their legs underneath them. The fact that they are going to spend more time on the "investigation" tells you all you need to know anout the NYS racing board and the joke that it is. I guess they still havent concluded the Chad Brown thermometer incident so the Pletcher case gets pushed back.