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Old 08-02-2010, 07:26 PM
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Maybe. Be patient.
How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:30 PM
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How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?
He actually throws some real fast horses speaking in terms of Thorograph, but it seems like durability is an issue with them. You see two races then a 200 day layoff pretty regularly.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:44 PM
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He actually throws some real fast horses speaking in terms of Thorograph, but it seems like durability is an issue with them. You see two races then a 200 day layoff pretty regularly.
Casino Drive for one. Him and Big Brown's health allowed the disgrace that is Da Tara to win the Belmont in a cakewalk.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:45 PM
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Sadly enough Casino Drive might be his best.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:47 PM
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Redding Collery just beat Awesome Gem by like 7 last out and it was 7 lengths more to 3rd.

He and Discreetly Mine are at least somewhat sound ... Casino Drive was like Ironman Jon with a better pedigree and bigger following.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:57 PM
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Redding Collery just beat Awesome Gem by like 7 last out and it was 7 lengths more to 3rd.

He and Discreetly Mine are at least somewhat sound ... Casino Drive was like Ironman Jon with a better pedigree and bigger following.
They are a lot more sound than Unbridled Song and the unlimited cripples he continues to throw putting human lives at risk.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:48 PM
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Mineshaft's top progeny by lifetime earnings:

Casino Drive $838,539
Cool Coal Man $807,328
Sacher Mine $617,366
Discreetly Mine $559,350
Coal Play $528,068
Redding Colliery $402,853
Fly Down $397,070
A. U. Miner $273,175
Monomakh $204,698
Minewander $193,400

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Old 08-02-2010, 07:49 PM
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Who the hell is Sacher Mine?
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:54 PM
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Who the hell is Sacher Mine?
Another from Japan. He has a record of 6 wins, 4 seconds, 3 thirds from 16 starts.

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Old 08-02-2010, 08:02 PM
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How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?
He's the leading 4th crop sire and is having a fantastic year. I was definitely disappointed in his start, but he's got some very good horses out there. So what if he's not the best son of AP Indy? That doesn't mean he's not any good.........
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