When does the $1,000,000 a day start at MTH?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

of course if it is 49 million or close to that its close enough. but when the number is closer to 45 million i will be waiting for the excuses.

So if they are 10% underpaid you are expecting a scandal or something? LOl

AP was underpaid far more than (%wise) that last season. Thankfully I may add because it kept them from slashing the purses there this year.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So if they are 10% underpaid you are expecting a scandal or something? LOl

AP was underpaid far more than (%wise) that last season. Thankfully I may add because it kept them from slashing the purses there this year.

AP didn't advertise something....something that is being inaccurately repeated ad finitum.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

AP didn't advertise something....something that is being inaccurately repeated ad finitum.

I think that the advertising thing is completely overblow here. If they cant fill some of the higher purse races what are they supposed to do with the extra money?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think that the advertising thing is completely overblow here. If they cant fill some of the higher purse races what are they supposed to do with the extra money?

Advertising is a euphamism. The fact is that this exclamation has, and is, repeated over and over again....yet it doesn't appear to be true. No, this is not the biggest deal in the world, and it doesn't change the fact that the betting public has reacted very favorably to their meet....but it also doesn't make people that point it out either wrong or evil.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Advertising is a euphamism. The fact is that this exclamation has, and is, repeated over and over again....yet it doesn't appear to be true. No, this is not the biggest deal in the world, and it doesn't change the fact that the betting public has reacted very favorably to their meet....but it also doesn't make people that point it out either wrong or evil.

Hey its horseracing where the Breeders Cup mile has been held at 1 1/16th. A million a day has a better ring to it than $948,943.35 a day does.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hey its horseracing where the Breeders Cup mile has been held at 1 1/16th. A million a day has a better ring to it than $948,943.35 a day does.

Or $843,292.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So if they are 10% underpaid you are expecting a scandal or something? LOl

AP was underpaid far more than (%wise) that last season. Thankfully I may add because it kept them from slashing the purses there this year.

i dont remember saying anything about a scandal at all and what arlington did last year is apples and oranges. if magna promised something important like purses and then came 10% away from delivering it, there would be discussion about it. if cdi did it, there would be discussion. if nyra did it, there would be discussion.

so why the rush to hush up anyone trying to discuss this?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

i dont remember saying anything about a scandal at all and what arlington did last year is apples and oranges. if magna promised something important like purses and then came 10% away from delivering it, there would be discussion about it. if cdi did it, there would be discussion. if nyra did it, there would be discussion.

so why the rush to hush up anyone trying to discuss this?

No this isnt apples and oranges. What you seemingly dont understand is that yes magna and CDI and NYRA and every other tack has overpaid and underpaid purses every meet. 10% is not a gross underpayment and that money is still due to the horseman. It isnt like tracks can underpay purses and just keep the money (though John Brunetti has tried)

Hell CDI had a contract with the horseman concerning sponsorship money (Yum) and they didnt pay the purse account what was owed for almost 2 years passed and only then after they were sued by the HBPA.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No this isnt apples and oranges. What you seemingly dont understand is that yes magna and CDI and NYRA and every other tack has overpaid and underpaid purses every meet. 10% is not a gross underpayment and that money is still due to the horseman. It isnt like tracks can underpay purses and just keep the money (though John Brunetti has tried)

Hell CDI had a contract with the horseman concerning sponsorship money (Yum) and they didnt pay the purse account what was owed for almost 2 years passed and only then after they were sued by the HBPA.

Once again, this is not likely to be applicable here. However, time will tell, and perhaps I will be wrong about this.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No this isnt apples and oranges. What you seemingly dont understand is that yes magna and CDI and NYRA and every other tack has overpaid and underpaid purses every meet. 10% is not a gross underpayment and that money is still due to the horseman. It isnt like tracks can underpay purses and just keep the money (though John Brunetti has tried)

Hell CDI had a contract with the horseman concerning sponsorship money (Yum) and they didnt pay the purse account what was owed for almost 2 years passed and only then after they were sued by the HBPA.

you keep wanting to move the discussion away from what i am saying in an attempt to act like i dont understand something. i never said this hasnt happened at other meets. im just saying why isnt it up for discussion now?

i cant wait until labor day. maybe i will "get it" by then.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

you keep wanting to move the discussion away from what i am saying in an attempt to act like i dont understand something. i never said this hasnt happened at other meets. im just saying why isnt it up for discussion now?

i cant wait until labor day. maybe i will "get it" by then.

Because underpayment of purses is 1. hard to discuss until it happens and 2. is a regular occurence. Why does this keep eluding you?

Perhaps if you stopped trying to defend yourself against imaginary attacks you could understand better? Like I said if Monmouth doles out 47.6 million in purses after 50 days it is still not much of a story.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Because underpayment of purses is 1. hard to discuss until it happens and 2. is a regular occurence. Why does this keep eluding you?

Perhaps if you stopped trying to defend yourself against imaginary attacks you could understand better? Like I said if Monmouth doles out 47.6 million in purses after 50 days it is still not much of a story.

so this is what your position is reduced to? might have just been easier to admit you were wrong a few pages back. you keep failing to recognize that the #1 slogan for the monmouth meet is 50 million in 50 days.

the money is why people are at monmouth. the fact that so far they arent close to averaging a million a day and wont be at the end of the meet is a story. at least some people think it is including the thread starter. you dont and that is fine.

but why set yourself up in the middle of a discussion that

1. you have said you dont care about
2. you have no interest in actually discussing
3. you dont think is even a story
4. you are wrong about, but too hard headed to admit?

why waste your time on something like this?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

so this is what your position is reduced to? might have just been easier to admit you were wrong a few pages back. you keep failing to recognize that the #1 slogan for the monmouth meet is 50 million in 50 days.

the money is why people are at monmouth. the fact that so far they aren't close to averaging a million a day and wont be at the end of the meet is a story. at least some people think it is including the thread starter. you dont and that is fine.

but why set yourself up in the middle of a discussion that

1. you have said you dont care about
2. you have no interest in actually discussing
3. you dont think is even a story
4. you are wrong about, but too hard headed to admit?

why waste your time on something like this?

Because explaining the reality of the situation could perhaps enlighten some of the people who took the time to read this tedious thread?

You keep hanging your hat on a 'slogan'. I dont know what it is that I have said that you find so upsetting on a personal level. You keep coming back to petty points while obviously missing the point. That point is that purse money is not evenly distributed on a daily basis. A secondary point is that the amount of purse money paid out depends on many factors other than the tracks desire to pay or not pay more or less than stated in the 'slogan'. The third point is that purses are usually underpaid by some percentage for the majority of a meet's days. The reasoning is simple, the track does not want to pay more than they are required to.

You want to spin this as though something is happening that isnt typical racetrack business practices. It is not. As I have said numerous times, how much Monmouth pays out in purses is immaterial to me. If they pay out $46 million instead of $50 million it doesnt matter to me because racetracks underpaying purses is a common move. Your insistence that they are going to way underpay the purses is so far based on conjecture. But the idea that something nefarious is happening there because of your opinion over a slogan, well that does interest me.