Michelle Calls Barack a "Kenyan"

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If they really had the birth certificate, I would certainly think they would just release it rather than spending millions of dollars on lawyers to fight its release. That is hardly a crazy opinion.

I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.

I think you are absolutely correct. It serves as a smokescreen and diversion for his agenda and allows....like literally this crazy statement to be put out showing more concern for illegal's wages than upholding American laws.

http://www.thefoxnation.com/illegal-...ght-fair-wages

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.

I find that to be an extremely far-fetched argument. Is it possible? Yes, it is certainly possible but it is extremely far-fetched in my view. This is not one of those cases where all publicity is good publicity. Bad publicity is bad publicity, period. And you are way off the mark if you think that it's only far-right wackos that have questions about where he was born.

Polls they have done show that a majority of Americans say he should release his birth certificate. If he doesn't release it, it just makes it look like he is hiding something. Nobody likes that. Everybody likes transparency.

I know that you guys know most of the facts of this case but most of the people out there that think this whole thing is a non-issue don't even know the facts. Most of those people think that his birth-ceritificate has already been released because that was what the mainstream media reported.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Polls they have done show that a majority of Americans say he should release his birth certificate. If he doesn't release it, it just makes it look like he is hiding something. Nobody likes that. Everybody likes transparency.

I know that you guys know most of the facts of this case but most of the people out there that think this whole thing is a non-issue don't even know the facts. Most of those people think that his birth-ceritificate has already been released because that was what the mainstream media reported.

Well, let's say that he's not an American, and that's what he's hiding.

If that's the case, this was the best plan in all of history -- and I mean ALL of history. To take a Black boy born in 1961, three years before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, come up with the awesome idea that this foreigner of color would 50 years later be able to infiltrate the United States government by passing as a citizen, and deciding that in lieu of any actual proof that they may need to show, they would put a congratulations to themselves in the paper just in case they needed an alibi 50 years later.

Mind you, this child then had to have the aptitude to go graduate law school, become an excellent public speaker, win elections....and they foresaw all of this 50 years in advance in a country where Blacks at the time still didn't even have full and equal rights.

Really?

How can such a wingnut theory be anything *but* a non-issue? Are you kidding me? If that's the case, the f*cking guy deserves to be President anyway because of the sheer amazing power of awesome that it took to hatch that plan over the course of 50 years, and the brilliance of his parents/keepers/masterminds who had the ability to choose the *one* child who would be able to fulfill this plan, and make a newspaper announcement about his birth to quell the inevitable questions five decades later.

Yes. You're right Rupert, the real fools in this situation are the ones who don't ask to see his birth certificate. You got us there, because they've made fools of us with the most awesome plan in the history of the universe. This is like the Trojan Horse on 50-year steroids. FFS.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well, let's say that he's not an American, and that's what he's hiding.

If that's the case, this was the best plan in all of history -- and I mean ALL of history. To take a Black boy born in 1961, three years before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, come up with the awesome idea that this foreigner of color would 50 years later be able to infiltrate the United States government by passing as a citizen, and deciding that in lieu of any actual proof that they may need to show, they would put a congratulations to themselves in the paper just in case they needed an alibi 50 years later.

Mind you, this child then had to have the aptitude to go graduate law school, become an excellent public speaker, win elections....and they foresaw all of this 50 years in advance in a country where Blacks at the time still didn't even have full and equal rights.

Really?

How can such a wingnut theory be anything *but* a non-issue? Are you kidding me? If that's the case, the f*cking guy deserves to be President anyway because of the sheer amazing power of awesome that it took to hatch that plan over the course of 50 years, and the brilliance of his parents/keepers/masterminds who had the ability to choose the *one* child who would be able to fulfill this plan, and make a newspaper announcement about his birth to quell the inevitable questions five decades later.

Yes. You're right Rupert, the real fools in this situation are the ones who don't ask to see his birth certificate. You got us there, because they've made fools of us with the most awesome plan in the history of the universe. This is like the Trojan Horse on 50-year steroids. FFS.

Who are you arguing with? I don't know a single person in the world that thinks this was a vast conspiracy that started 50 years ago. Whoever said that?

I don't know the explanation for the newspaper announcement of his birth. Has it been authenticated? If it has, then I could come up with another argument as to why they made the announcement. Maybe his mom wanted people to think he was born in Hawaii so that he would immediately, automatically be a US citizen. Nobody is claiming that the announcement (assuming the announcemt was authentic) was put in the paper in case he ever wanted to run for President 50 years later. That is absurd.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is absurd.

Of course it is. That's why I can't believe that you're continuing to carry on like a fool with this stuff. "Nobody is arguing that, because that would be craaaaaazy!" As opposed to the very reasonable things you're writing. LOL. I just upped the ante a bit.

If he's not an American, that's really the only explanation for all of it, and it's only marginally more absurd than the insane birther theories to begin with. And these people who planned this out decades ago did excellent work. Geez, the more I type about this, the more I start to believe you, Rupert. They *really* just might have pulled this off!!!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Of course it is. That's why I can't believe that you're continuing to carry on like a fool with this stuff.

If he's not an American, that's really the only explanation for all of it, and it's only marginally more absurd than the insane birther theories to begin with. And these people who planned this out decades ago did excellent work. Geez, the more I type about this, the more I start to believe you, Rupert. They *really* just might have pulled this off!!!

What are you talking about? Nobody thinks that. Nobody thinks this was planned decades ago.

We don't even know that the newspaper announcements are authentic. And as I said, even if they are authentic, there are far more innocuous explanations than a 50 year conspircay theory. How about his mom wanting her son to be a US citizen?

If it makes you feel good to think that anyone who questions Obama's birthplace is crazy, then more power to you. Whatever makes you feel good is fine with me.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If it makes you feel good to think that anyone who questions Obama's birthplace is crazy, then more power to you. Whatever makes you feel good is fine with me.

In that case, I feel excellent about having your approval to think birthers, yourself included, are f*cking nuts.

With real issues to complain about that have real merit, it simply amazes me that people waste their time with crazy conspiracy theories like this, rather than criticizing Obama on the things he should be criticized on. It just takes the teeth out of any other real criticism you lob his way, like anyone who thought Bush ordered 9/11 shouldn't be taken seriously in their other criticisms of Bush because clearly their entire mind is muddled with crap that doesn't allow them to think clearly.

Really though, who cares what the crazy guy who insists Obama is a Kenyan born in Nairobi thinks? Any real ability to be objective is obviously gone, and Obama is playing you and those like you for absolute hilarious fools by letting you embarrass yourself like this. Carry on.