Muslims have gone too far

[Riot]

[quote=Rupert Pupkin;651117]So you agree with Miraja2 that Bush was a "murderous thug"?

I understand the point Miraja2 was attempting to make with the part of the paragraph that referred to Bush.

"Yeah, sometimes people who give orders that directly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians somehow manage to retain high approval ratings in their home areas."

I noticed that you haven't admitted that your belief that Bin Laden was not popular in the Muslim world was totally wrong

LOL - probably as I don't think the fact that bin Laden isn't popular in the least throughout the majority of the Muslim world is wrong at all. I think that thought has been repeatedly demonstrated by the Muslim communities of multiple countries over the past many years. The Muslim world doesn't consist of one homegeneous religious sect, located in 2003 Indonesia. Or Pakistan. Or Jordan. It's not even "one sect" within those three countries. Let alone the multiple other countries that have major Muslim populations of varying beliefs. Seems some don't know that there are at least 50 differing religious sects that fall under "Islam". I keep reading that "Muslims" are terroristic, American-hating, murderous, child f'ng thugs that all think alike. Millions of people, all the same. I say that thought is a load of false, bigoted crap.

And yeah - I think terrorists who kill - domestic or foreign - are scum that should be dead.

[Rupert Pupkin]

[quote=Riot;651135]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

So you agree with Miraja2 that Bush was a "murderous thug"?

I understand the point Miraja2 was attempting to make with the part of the paragraph that referred to Bush.

"Yeah, sometimes people who give orders that directly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians somehow manage to retain high approval ratings in their home areas."



LOL - probably as I don't think the fact that bin Laden isn't popular in the least throughout the majority of the Muslim world is wrong at all. I think that thought has been repeatedly demonstrated by the Muslim communities of multiple countries over the past many years. The Muslim world doesn't consist of one homegeneous religious sect, located in 2003 Indonesia. Or Pakistan. Or Jordan. It's not even "one sect" within those three countries. Let alone the multiple other countries that have major Muslim populations of varying beliefs. Seems some don't know that there are at least 50 differing religious sects that fall under "Islam". I keep reading that "Muslims" are terroristic, American-hating, murderous, child f'ng thugs that all think alike. Millions of people, all the same. I say that thought is a load of false, bigoted crap.

And yeah - I think terrorists who kill - domestic or foreign - are scum that should be dead.

The bottom line is that Bin Laden was popular in most Muslim countries around 2003. Over 50% of Muslims supported Bin Laden in many Muslim countries. Do you know of many (or any) Muslim countries where he wasn't popular?

[Riot]

[quote=Rupert Pupkin;651140]

Originally Posted by Riot

The bottom line is that Bin Laden was popular in most Muslim countries around 2003.

The bottom line is some lump all "Muslims" together as a religious cult of terrorists to hate and fear, and some don't.

[Rupert Pupkin]

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The bottom line is some lump all "Muslims" together as a religious cult of terrorists to hate and fear, and some don't.

I don't think anyone said anything about "all Muslims" being bad or anything like that. Plenty of Muslims are very good people.

But to try to act like it's only a tiny percentage of Muslims that admired Bin Laden would be false.

And I don't think you could possibly support the way women are treated in many Muslim countries.

[Riot]

I don't think anyone said anything about "all Muslims" being bad or anything like that.

"Muslims have gone too far".

Plenty of Muslims are very good people.

Nice to hear you state the obvious.

But to try to act like it's only a tiny percentage of Muslims that admired Bin Laden would be false.

We'll just have to disagree completely on that one.

And I don't think you could possibly support the way women are treated in many Muslim countries

No, I have no desire to go to Saudi. However, that has nothing to do with foreign terrorism threats to this country. I also don't support the way Muslims are treated by some Americans in this country.

I think the American soldier in that video should be punished for how he treated those children. You?

[letswastemoney]

Well I was directing my thread towards the Muslims who want to censor the drawings of Muhammad.

But I suppose I could have worded the title better.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Well I was directing my thread towards the Muslims who want to censor the drawings of Muhammad.

But I suppose I could have worded the title better.

I doubt that wording matters much, judging by the dearth of, "Hey, I don't think millions of Muslims can be lumped together and presumed to be religious terrorists" comments.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Muslims have gone too far".



Nice to hear you state the obvious.



We'll just have to disagree completely on that one.



No, I have no desire to go to Saudi. However, that has nothing to do with foreign terrorism threats to this country. I also don't support the way Muslims are treated by some Americans in this country.

I think the American soldier in that video should be punished for how he treated those children. You?

What do you mean you disagree? The polls showed that Bin Laden was quite popular in the Muslim world. It's not debatable. They did polls in several Muslim countries and Bin Laden was quite popular for a while. There's nothing to argue about. It's a fact.

With regard to your question about the American soldier and the children, I haven't seen the video, so I can't answer that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

What do you mean you disagree? The polls showed that Bin Laden was quite popular in the Muslim world. It's not debatable. They did polls in several Muslim countries and Bin Laden was quite popular for a while. There's nothing to argue about. It's a fact.

With regard to your question about the American soldier and the children, I haven't seen the video, so I can't answer that.

Yes, "it's a fact" if one only considers those particular 2003 polls, ignoring all other published opinion expressed by various Muslim individuals, countries, organizations regarding bin Laden pre- and post- 9/11, within Saudi and elsewhere.

You should watch the video. Directly applicable to this thread.

[Riot]

With regard to your question about the American soldier and the children, I haven't seen the video, so I can't answer that.

See the third page of this thread:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/i...iraqi-children