Ok so how is this Bush's Fault

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by philcski

Ok, so in your opinion GAS prices, a non-life essential product, should be regulated by the government- whereas HEALTHCARE, a life essential product, should not be?

A non-life essential product? I guess you didn't watch the National Geographic special on March 8 - A WORLD WITHOUT OIL.

Lack of health care would take a back seat to the crises of no oil.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

I don't profess to understand how oil prices work - there are so many pundits with their own theories. I just know that in 1999, gas was about $1.00 a gallon, and now it's $3.00 a gallon and diesel, which should cost less than any grade of regular gasoline, costs more than hi-test.

The world has become dependent on oil - not just the United States. Chaos would reign if the world ran out of oil. I'd venture to say that 40% of the U.S. oil usage is for non-transportation usage.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

A non-life essential product? I guess you didn't watch the National Geographic special on March 8 - A WORLD WITHOUT OIL.

Lack of health care would take a back seat to the crises of no oil.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

I don't profess to understand how oil prices work - there are so many pundits with their own theories. I just know that in 1999, gas was about $1.00 a gallon, and now it's $3.00 a gallon and diesel, which should cost less than any grade of regular gasoline, costs more than hi-test.

The world has become dependent on oil - not just the United States. Chaos would reign if the world ran out of oil. I'd venture to say that 40% of the U.S. oil usage is for non-transportation usage.

he was talking about regulation of gas prices, not about oil. as for diesel, prices depend on supply and demand. huge demand for diesel, of course the price will rise.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he was talking about regulation of gas prices, not about oil. as for diesel, prices depend on supply and demand. huge demand for diesel, of course the price will rise.

No, he said, "a non-life essential product".

That's all well and good about the usage of diesel, but it's cheaper to process than regular gasoline - so it shouldn't cost more. Supposedly, the price of diesel was supposed to drop drastically after the 2009 Summer Olympics in China, and it did a bit, but now it's going back up.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

No, he said, "a non-life essential product".

That's all well and good about the usage of diesel, but it's cheaper to process than regular gasoline - so it shouldn't cost more. Supposedly, the price of diesel was supposed to drop drastically after the 2009 Summer Olympics in China, and it did a bit, but now it's going back up.

i know what he said, he said gas prices, a non essential product-and then you started spouting off about oil in response. those are comparing apples and oranges. gas is a product of oil. oil produces a number of products, gas being just one of them.

as for diesel, i know it's a by product. i also know demand is high as ever. of course the price will follow.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i know what he said, he said gas prices, a non essential product-and then you started spouting off about oil in response. those are comparing apples and oranges. gas is a product of oil. oil produces a number of products, gas being just one of them.

as for diesel, i know it's a by product. i also know demand is high as ever. of course the price will follow.

JHC - how you cherry pick what I have to say just so you can grouse in return. Hope Philcski isn't paying you too much to be his spokesperson. And, yes, I know that gasoline is a by-product of oil, and it is a life-essential product.

Take a bit of time to read the web-site I posted about the NG special that was on back in March - THE WORLD WITHOUT OIL. I do have a knowledge base other than what's posted on horse forums.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

<<At five days after the oil disappears, the theory is that the United States would be reduced to martial law as gas stations run out of gasoline and stores begin to run out of food because there isn't enough fuel to keep supplies coming in. Armed guards are needed to simply allow citizens into stores to pick through half-rotten food - which is all that is available.>>

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

JHC - how you cherry pick what I have to say just so you can grouse in return. Hope Philcski isn't paying you too much to be his spokesperson. And, yes, I know that gasoline is a by-product of oil, and it is a life-essential product.

Take a bit of time to read the web-site I posted about the NG special that was on back in March - THE WORLD WITHOUT OIL. I do have a knowledge base other than what's posted on horse forums.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=15

<<At five days after the oil disappears, the theory is that the United States would be reduced to martial law as gas stations run out of gasoline and stores begin to run out of food because there isn't enough fuel to keep supplies coming in. Armed guards are needed to simply allow citizens into stores to pick through half-rotten food - which is all that is available.>>

why do you keep going to oil, when the original post mentioned gasoline? that's what i don't understand. how is gas 'life essential'? there are other fuels that could take it's place pretty quickly. it's certainly far from essential. food is essential, so's water...i'd give up gasoline before i gave up refrigeration, electricity, etc. as for phil, i'm sure he can speak for himself just fine. not sure what your point was there. funny tho, when i reply to you, you're the only one accusing me of cherry picking. but then, maybe rupert is just trying to think of a retort to my post about barrack. or maybe you take these discussions far more personally than many? i'm just enjoying the discussion, sorry if you feel picked on when someone disagrees with you.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why do you keep going to oil, when the original post mentioned gasoline? that's what i don't understand. how is gas 'life essential'? there are other fuels that could take it's place pretty quickly. it's certainly far from essential. food is essential, so's water...i'd give up gasoline before i gave up refrigeration, electricity, etc. as for phil, i'm sure he can speak for himself just fine. not sure what your point was there. funny tho, when i reply to you, you're the only one accusing me of cherry picking. but then, maybe rupert is just trying to think of a retort to my post about barrack. or maybe you take these discussions far more personally than many? i'm just enjoying the discussion, sorry if you feel picked on when someone disagrees with you.

don't worry danny. she has a thick skin.

we know this because she posts about it every few days. that doesn't strike me as the least bit defensive so i'm sure it's true. she's as sincere about her invulnerability to criticism as she was about really really really hoping that rumor she spread about obama's non-existent affair wasn't true.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why do you keep going to oil, when the original post mentioned gasoline? that's what i don't understand. how is gas 'life essential'? there are other fuels that could take it's place pretty quickly. it's certainly far from essential. food is essential, so's water...i'd give up gasoline before i gave up refrigeration, electricity, etc. as for phil, i'm sure he can speak for himself just fine. not sure what your point was there. funny tho, when i reply to you, you're the only one accusing me of cherry picking. but then, maybe rupert is just trying to think of a retort to my post about barrack. or maybe you take these discussions far more personally than many? i'm just enjoying the discussion, sorry if you feel picked on when someone disagrees with you.

Why do YOU keep insisting that I'm talking strictly about oil? Just what product is there that would so readily replace gasoline to power a transportation vehicle? Without gasoline you wouldn't have food in the grocery stores or any othe other items in every day living upon which you have grown dependent . You'll not be able to commute to work, let alone do any other type of long distance driving. And, oil is related. Without it, you don't have gasoline or any of the other products that come from oil.

Gas rationings in the 70's damn near brought this nation to its knees. Can you imagine waiting on line for 2 - 3 hours or more to fill your car with 5 or 10 gallons of gasoline every other day? Can you imagine going to the supermarkets and finding the shelves nearly bare because the trucks delivering goods couldn't make it because they, too, had long waits to fill up when they could.

"The rationing led to incidents of violence, after truck drivers nationwide chose to strike for two days in December 1973 because they objected to the supplies Simon had rationed for their industry. In Pennsylvania and Ohio, non-striking truckers were shot at by striking truckers, and in Arkansas, trucks of non-strikers were attacked with bombs."

Please don't try and tell me that gasoline isn't life essential. What would your day be like without it?

And, by the way, did I borrow money from you and forget to pay it back? Seems you're on my tail every opportunity you can make of it, so I do take it personally. I could say the world is round, and you'd argue the point,

I'm here. I'm going to say what I have to or want to say. It may not set right with you, but take Antitrust's advice about talking down to people. You're not the fountainhead of knowledge.

Oh, and by the way, hi_good gawd. Grow up, minion!