La Troienne discussion

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Btw, Cannon, you're wasting your time again. These RA lovers don't want to hear about the horrible to mediocre competition she faced last year. Like the misguided HotY voters, they just block it out … means nothing to them.

Unlike the universal agreement that Zenyatta's competition last year included 3 mules and a german shepard, there are some ardent RA fans who insist that Macho Again, Mailbu Prayer and Stone legacy are top class.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Unlike the universal agreement that Zenyatta's competition last year included 3 mules and a german shepard, there are some ardent RA fans who insist that Macho Again, Mailbu Prayer and Stone legacy are top class.

I'd take the 2 mules and german sheppard over those 3.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'd take the 2 mules and german sheppard over those 3.

the competition that both horses faced last year was a wash.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the competition that both horses faced last year was a wash.

Match up the Classic field and The Woodward, no one with half an ounce of reason could say these fields are of equal talent.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

Match up the Classic field and The Woodward, no one with half and ounce of reason could say these fields are of equal talent.

dont be a Riot.

If the Woodward was the only race Rachel ran in last year your point would still be bad.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

dont be a Riot.

If the Woodward was the only race Rachel ran in last year your point would still be bad.

Who's Riot? In the context of who is better which is all that anyone cares about, though I think that discussion is close to ending...maybe Riot is right.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

Who's Riot? In the context of who is better which is all that anyone cares about, though I think that discussion is close to ending...maybe Riot is right.

its will only end when the two horses face each other.


And Riot is just another word for "idiot"

Believe me, you are not a Riot. Not even close. Your buddy Booth is though.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the competition that both horses faced last year was a wash.

Only thing is , one is still undefeated and one is not , despite the lack of competion for both.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Honu

Only thing is , one is still undefeated and one is not , despite the lack of competion for both.

neither were defeated last year, which is what we were discussing.

Rachel had been defeated before she even began her 3yo year..

I just dont get the Booth Operator and CSC hard on for Z's competition last year.

But than again, it is booth and CSC we're talking about here.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Unlike the universal agreement that Zenyatta's competition last year included 3 mules and a german shepard, there are some ardent RA fans who insist that Macho Again, Mailbu Prayer and Stone legacy are top class.

I've used words like mule, goat and rat before when describing some horses comp … but never "german shepard".

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

I've used words like mule, goat and rat before when describing some horses comp … but never "german shepard".

Euros

[Smooth Operator]

[Merlinsky]

Once again, listening to ATR brings sense to the cacophonous noise that is the Rachel/Zenyatta conversation. Thanks, Steve. I'd be surprised if that was Calvin's decision which was thrown out there as a possibility. I still feel like it's Asmussen.

[ateamstupid]

No excuses here, she should've put that filly away even if UB did get the jump on her.

As for the ride, I think the connections might've been a little paranoid about chasing fast fractions like she did in New Orleans. There appeared to be a lot of speed on paper today, but it just didn't materialize. Still, whatever the plans were, Calvin should've realized how slow they were going and just let her roll.

[letswastemoney]

I was just reading the Crist blog and he brought up a good point. Which brings me to this question.

Question:

If Rachel and Unrivaled Belle ran something in the 105 beyer figure range, are people still going to say Rachel is not as good as last year?

It's not unreasonable to think that Unrivaled Belle just improved.

[DaTruth]

Final time for the race was 2/5ths faster than Arson Squad's winning time in the Alysheba.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

You are showing a character flaw.