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[philcski]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

You keep dreaming, philcski. Maybe someday you'll wake up and smell the coffee.

I'm done on this topic. Said all I have to say. To say anything more would be in defense of what I've said already, and I'm not into defending my opinions.

I've got some bigger things in my personal life that I have to attend to. I've been a member of this forum for nearly 4 years. I hardly ever post to it because frankly - 3/4's of the time I don't know what the heck people are talking about. It seems like a secret society, at times. And, analyzing all that's been said here, the same thing applies. I don't understand what a lot of people are saying, and they accuse me of the same.

The difference is - I couldn't care less. Right is RIGHT.

I shall drag my knuckles back to my cave and leave y'all with smart azz remarks to say in response. Some of you need the last word. I do not.

What am I dreaming about? What do I need to "wake up and smell the coffee" on?

Picture FROM TODAY!
Looks like China is ready to push the button

I am not accusing you of anything other than having misguided information, nor am I trying to get in a "last word". A lot of the stuff you have said just simply isn't true and I've given you the facts to dispute them, but you don't seem to care. You said you're an "informed voter" but then when presented with the facts you don't seem to digest them. It goes right back to what you want to believe.

Right is RIGHT alright- the extreme Right doesn't seem to listen or care to anyone else, even when presented with factual information that conflict their beliefs, just like the extreme Left.

It looks like Obama is getting on his knees.

[timmgirvan]

Well,Philski, I hope you're right about the VAT not being passed. As far as America being socialist...it's not now but it's moving that way with the redistribution of wealth projects that Obama has going.
Oh, about China.....they don't have to attack us militarily...they just have to call in all our debt to them, and it's over.
About the healthcare reform and it's cost to us...if they indeed do start to count our insurance as wages or income, there will be no wiggle room at all for most people economically.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Well,Philski, I hope you're right about the VAT not being passed. As far as America being socialist...it's not now but it's moving that way with the redistribution of wealth projects that Obama has going.

What 'redistribution of wealth projects' are you talking about, specifically?

Edit: I just re-read this thread (in general), comments about where the country is going, the President, etc. If you look for reality, fact, and take out all the "could, might, maybe, if's" ... there isn't alot left. Fear: it's what's for dinner in America.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

What 'redistribution of wealth projects' are you talking about, specifically?

You've heard about the US going after the people who have wealth amassed in other countries? The guy who heads this has said that this is an application of redistribution. I think I saw it on Drudge. I haven't found the specific link yet

[Riot]

You've heard about the US going after the people who have wealth amassed in other countries?

Yes, the IRS going after US citizens hiding wealth or assets in other countries for the purposes of tax evasion was on all the major news orgs a week or two ago.

The guy who heads this has said that this is an application of redistribution.

Please, bring that quote here. You are saying that the IRS head of this department actually said that?

I think I saw it on Drudge. I haven't found the specific link yet

There are links all over the internet news organizations regarding this. It was pretty well publicized.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, the IRS going after US citizens hiding wealth or assets in other countries for the purposes of tax evasion was on all the major news orgs a week or two ago.



Please, bring that quote here. You are saying that the IRS head of this department actually said that?



There are links all over the internet news organizations regarding this. It was pretty well publicized.

you seem to do better at finding links than I, so help yourself! I'll be loooking also.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You've heard about the US going after the people who have wealth amassed in other countries? The guy who heads this has said that this is an application of redistribution. I think I saw it on Drudge. I haven't found the specific link yet

OH. MAH. GAWD.

Timmi, do you have a Bermudan or Swiss bank account where you store all of your racetrack riches? Didn't think so.

This is NOT "redistribution of wealth". It's going after people that have used their economic status to cheat the system for many years, causing the rest of us to have to overpay in taxes. It's tax evasion, flat out illegal, yet for some reason has been semi-allowed for too long. Good for the government to finally say "enough".

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

OH. MAH. GAWD.

Timmi, do you have a Bermudan or Swiss bank account where you store all of your racetrack riches? Didn't think so.

This is NOT "redistribution of wealth". It's going after people that have used their economic status to cheat the system for many years, causing the rest of us to have to overpay in taxes. It's tax evasion, flat out illegal, yet for some reason has been semi-allowed for too long. Good for the government to finally say "enough".

It is a real stretch to say that the rest of us have overpaid taxes because of this. Because if it did you would expect that tax rates would be declining in the near future now that a lot of that money has been recovered. We all know that isnt happeneing. And the fact is that the average persons overall tax burden is going to be heading north in the near future regardless of the spin to the contrary. Dont forget that a whole lot of the stimilus money came with strings attached and the states are already biting back. You will see increases in all kinds of other taxes (sales, property, tolls, etc) simply because the states are broke, and much of the pain in the future is due to unsustainable increases in social programs including unemployment programs. I was fined $55000k by the NYS labor board over a dispute three years ago that concerned 1 employee for 6 weeks. I was recently notified that i was fined 5 k by that same board for failure to have proper coverage in the 1st quarter of 2008 despite the fact that i did no business in the state during that time. Naturally these are seemingly unusual cases but show the lengths that state agencies are now willing to go to try to grab some cash. The average person must now pay more for the same healthcare (mainly because the new bill makes it hard for their employers to take on the extra financial burdern and are simply passing those costs along by cutting programs or covering with a lesser program or even dumping the employees into the govts lap) and in other cases be forced to buy it. That in itself is a form of mandated increase, a tax in sheeps clothes. The "energy" agenda being proposed by the current administration will increase the average persons monthly bill by 100 to 300%. Another not so hidden tax which hits the middle class. Hopefully it gets shot down.

The idea that a middle class person is going to benefit financially from this administrations programs flies in the face of reality. Someone is going to have to pay for all this continued spending (the rich are paying the downpayment) and that someone is the middle class.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by philcski

OH. MAH. GAWD.

Timmi, do you have a Bermudan or Swiss bank account where you store all of your racetrack riches? Didn't think so.

This is NOT "redistribution of wealth". It's going after people that have used their economic status to cheat the system for many years, causing the rest of us to have to overpay in taxes. It's tax evasion, flat out illegal, yet for some reason has been semi-allowed for too long. Good for the government to finally say "enough".

I have to agree with you on this. You are very correct about it not being fair to us taxpayers who are paying more than we should. Its a shame people have been getting away with this for many years.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You've heard about the US going after the people who have wealth amassed in other countries? The guy who heads this has said that this is an application of redistribution. I think I saw it on Drudge. I haven't found the specific link yet

i think it's great that they're going after scofflaws. i pay my taxes, why the hell shouldn't everyone else? tax dodgers and cheats get away with this, but the rest of us can't-or won't. you call it re-distribution, i call it tax evasion-and illegal.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

What 'redistribution of wealth projects' are you talking about, specifically?

Edit: I just re-read this thread (in general), comments about where the country is going, the President, etc. If you look for reality, fact, and take out all the "could, might, maybe, if's" ... there isn't alot left. Fear: it's what's for dinner in America.

If I think your house is on fire, I'm gonna tell you. People can add one problem or scenario together to find a possible unfavorable outcome. That's all
I'm sayin

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

If I think your house is on fire, I'm gonna tell you. People can add one problem or scenario together to find a possible unfavorable outcome. That's all
I'm sayin

I would prefer people only tell me my house is on fire when there's actual signs of smoke, flames, embers, the smell of burning ... not just when there are matches in the house

If one wants to discuss the potential fire safety hazards of matches, that's a good topic.

But the presence of matches not the same thing as the house being on fire.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

I would prefer people only tell me my house is on fire when there's actual signs of smoke, flames, embers, the smell of burning ... not just when there are matches in the house

If one wants to discuss the potential fire safety hazards of matches, that's a good topic.

But the presence of matches not the same thing as the house being on fire.

Question: how DO you get the sand out of your ears?