McNabb to Redskins

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

You are insane if you think Norm Van Brocklin was a better quarterback than Donovan. Laughably insane at that. With all due respect, of course. Hell, he's probably the best PLAYER the franchise has ever had. Any real Eagles fan or someone who has actually watched football for more than five minutes would probably recognize that.

P.S. - I grew up right outside of Philly, so please don't call me a Washington Nationals fan. That is borderline offensive and most certainly beyond demeaning.

Didnt Chuck Bednarik and Reggie White play for the Eagles?

[slotdirt]

Chuck Bednarik? Besides sharing a name with Chuck Simon, how is he a superior all-time player for the Eagles franchise when compared to McNabb?

Reggie White was a great one, but some would argue his best days were with the Packers. McNabb's best days were most likely as an Eagle.

I guess this discussion leads to the obvious conclusion, and that is that the Eagles share similarities with the Phillies pre-2008 in that they have been a mostly moribund franchise for the majority of their existence.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Chuck Bednarik? Besides sharing a name with Chuck Simon, how is he a superior all-time player for the Eagles franchise when compared to McNabb?

Reggie White was a great one, but some would argue his best days were with the Packers. McNabb's best days were most likely as an Eagle.

I guess this discussion leads to the obvious conclusion, and that is that the Eagles share similarities with the Phillies pre-2008 in that they have been a mostly moribund franchise for the majority of their existence.

The first two paragraphs really show your knowledge for football..

LOL the only thing remotely correct about this post is the last sentence. Though most franchises are crappy for the majority of their existence.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Chuck Bednarik? Besides sharing a name with Chuck Simon, how is he a superior all-time player for the Eagles franchise when compared to McNabb?

Reggie White was a great one, but some would argue his best days were with the Packers. McNabb's best days were most likely as an Eagle.

I guess this discussion leads to the obvious conclusion, and that is that the Eagles share similarities with the Phillies pre-2008 in that they have been a mostly moribund franchise for the majority of their existence.

You are an Eagles fan and think Chuck Bednarik isnt a superior player to Donovan McNabb?


-He started on both offense and defense (center and linebacker)
-Played 14 seasons, missed 3 games
-10 time All Pro
-In 1999 the sporting news named the top 100 players of all time. Bednarik was ranked 54 and was the top center and the 8th rated linebacker.
-He played on 2 NFL championship teams in Philly with his last second tackle saving the game in 1960
-He was elected to the pro football hall of fame in his first year of eligibility
- Was named to the NFL's 75th anniversary All-time team
- Named to NFL's all decade (50's) team

So he won 2 championships when he was the teams best player, made the all decade team, was ranked as on of the top 50 players in league history 40 years after he played his last game and was elected to the hall of fame in his first try. Yeah mcNabb's career has been better...

[slotdirt]

I tried to find the 75th anniversary team put together by the Inquirer that lists Steve Van Buren as the greatest all-time Eagle, but my internet research skills are failing me.

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I tried to find the 75th anniversary team put together by the Inquirer that lists Steve Van Buren as the greatest all-time Eagle, but my internet research skills are failing me.

Him, Bednarik & White would be my top 3..

It looks like you and I were arguing two different things for a moment.. As far as eagles CAREER's go.. McNabb is up there with the best.

I was talking about overall talent / best players, even if they played 1 year for the Eagles.

Also, Reids 65 / 35 passing / running ratio really hurt the team and McNabb. Its easier to play defense when you know what every play will be..

[slotdirt]

I'm talking career. I don't count one-hit or one-year wonders when evaluating best players ever on a particular team. If that were the case, Doyle Alexander might rank as the greatest pitcher the Tigers ever had.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'm talking career. I don't count one-hit or one-year wonders when evaluating best players ever on a particular team. If that were the case, Doyle Alexander might rank as the greatest pitcher the Tigers ever had.

yeah they are two totally seperate arguments.. Obviously McNabb's career has been much better than Shawn Andrews.

Not too many players get to spend 11 years with the same team though...

If Van Brocklin had played for them for 11 years you would have agreed with me from the start..