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Old 09-28-2006, 01:58 AM
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Repent- I respect your your opiniion and have enjoyed numerous back and forths with you both in agreement and in disagreement.

1) Relaxed Gesture a fast horse? How do you define fast and maybe if you are willing to throw out his last 3 races which by the way sucked. When has he ever been able to beat top competition?

2) EC and Cacique are very good horses, albeit not so great that they too dont require a lot to go their way in a race to win, as evidenced by having perfect trips in all of their wins this year. So what exactly makes them any different than the Tin Man except they are not confirmed front runners?

3) Dont quit your job, I am with you on that. I imagine both of us work in professional enviroments and make pretty decent money. Why would we want to give that up to hang around OTBs with crispy critters all day to sweat out a living? Or sit home and make bets on a computer?
Tim,
feel the same.

here goes my response
1-RG ran a bang up race in the Manhattan.
look at the trouble he encountered, and still got up to finish in almost a dead heat.
when has he beaten top class competition.
Canadian International about 12 months ago.
Grey Swallow among others.

2.what makes EC and Cacique better than The Tin Man?
well, Cacique has shown the ability to win grade 1 races on the pace and coming from off the pace.
EC has won grade 1 races this year from 9 to 11f and done it in a variety of ways.


the Tin Man has only shown the ability to beat these types when allowed to set ridiculously slow fractions on the lead. thats fine. they allowed him to get away with that and he took advantage of that.
but dont expect me or anyone else to draw a transitional line from that performance to the Breeders Cup Turf and think that he has a chance. that race alone simply does not give him the credentials to be competitive on Nov 4th, IN MY OPINION.
thats the key, I dont give a sh*t what anyone else thinks of the TIn Man.
just dont expect me to buy in.

3-Yes, Im with you on the job.
I actually like going to work. It gives me a sense of accomplishment each day and it provides a steady income so that I can live the life I want to live.
richi asked me earlier if I had shown a profit for the year, and if so, why I would not quit my job and live off of my wagering earnings.
Well,
I have managed to be profitbale this year.
I feel pretty damn good about that also considering where I was at this time 24 months ago.
but the thing is, my "profit" for 2006 is about $1300 US dollars.
now, I dont know about you or anyone else, but I damn sure can not live of $1300 a year(or 9 months, or whatever).
I spend that much on DVD's each year.

I appreciate your response Gander.


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Old 09-28-2006, 02:15 AM
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but only 1300 bucks profit? surely u gest, good sir
no,
Im being honest merasmag.
Im not some great handicapper who can quit my job and do this for a living.

merasmag,
2 years ago when I was in school my dad had to freaking fund my youbet account several times a year.
I sucked.

I have practiced a ton.
I have learned to manage money better.
and I have learned to play to my strengths.

My good friend Dixie once said they play the National Anthem every day and I took more from that line than just about anything I have ever read on the internet.

I am now much more disciplined.
85% of all races I play are on the turf, or at least were originally carded for the turf.
I only bet w/p and pick 4's.
and I have a budget for each pick 4(its pretty low).

I have found that I am most effective and most profitiable when I stick to a few basic rules regarding what I am going to play.
but dont misunderstand me.
I handicap every day and handicap a variety of tracks, even tracks like Emerald that have no turf and I know I probably will not place a dollar.
Im trying constantly to get better.

I have a long way to go, but at least now I know it.



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Old 09-28-2006, 02:25 AM
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where, i don't know, but far-sweet dreams (p.s. it is your time but i would suggest just cappin the turf...that way you're only "losing" half as much by not betting)

thanks pal.

now, Im going to bed so that I can get some sleep so I can keep my job so I dont have to live off of the $1300 I win annually at the track.
later.


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Old 09-28-2006, 02:31 AM
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oh,
one more thing on the whole Tin Man subject.
all this talk about he being the best American turf horse is absurd.
hes not even the best west coast middle distance turf horse.
Lava Man and TH Approval would both run hm into the ground.


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Old 09-28-2006, 12:53 PM
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oh,
one more thing on the whole Tin Man subject.
all this talk about he being the best American turf horse is absurd.
hes not even the best west coast middle distance turf horse.
Lava Man and TH Approval would both run hm into the ground.


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I sure dont remeber anyone saying that he was the best turf horse in America. You just like to argue even when the subject has been dropped.
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