5 GOP break with party on jobs bill, vote w/Dems

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Patrick333

I certainly don't have any problem with people voting for bills that they believe in. Be they Republicans or Democrats they should vote for what they think is right. For the most part they weren't elected to vote a straight party line.

Correct. Brown was elected by the independents.

[Danzig]

i think they should get rid of the parties. george washington warned about the 'party first' mentality, and what havoc it could wreak. and he's right on about it.

there should be far more voting across party lines then there is-i've always thought that.

but then again, arguing that obama should get everything he wants because he got over 50% of the vote is absolute hogwash. people voted for him because they thought he was the better candidate, not because they agreed with him 100% on all issues.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think they should get rid of the parties. george washington warned about the 'party first' mentality, and what havoc it could wreak. and he's right on about it.

there should be far more voting across party lines then there is-i've always thought that.

but then again, arguing that obama should get everything he wants because he got over 50% of the vote is absolute hogwash. people voted for him because they thought he was the better candidate, not because they agreed with him 100% on all issues.

That should clear a few things up!

[AeWingnut]

no we just need to get the dems to vote with their constituents instead of with their party

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

no we just need to get the dems to vote with their constituents instead of with their party

the same could be said of the republicans. most voters, just like in massachusetts, consider themselves to be independant. they don't follow the party line, they don't blindly vote. i know a few people vote dem/rep because they always have voted that way. i know others who won't vote, rather than vote across lines. so, it comes down to all of us in the middle. we don't agree with either candidate, so we vote for the one we like better-or dislike less! but on individual bills, we expect to be heard. that's the way it's supposed to be, isn't it? they 'represent' us. they being both parties elected members.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the same could be said of the republicans. most voters, just like in massachusetts, consider themselves to be independant. they don't follow the party line, they don't blindly vote. i know a few people vote dem/rep because they always have voted that way. i know others who won't vote, rather than vote across lines. so, it comes down to all of us in the middle. we don't agree with either candidate, so we vote for the one we like better-or dislike less! but on individual bills, we expect to be heard. that's the way it's supposed to be, isn't it? they 'represent' us. they being both parties elected members.

one would think so..........

[Riot]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

no we just need to get the dems to vote with their constituents instead of with their party

Well, if so, we would have had health care last August

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, if so, we would have had health care last August

why should we have had healthcare last August, when Obama only published his half-assed "plan" yesterday? It doesn't even contain enough specifics for the CBO to score.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

why should we have had healthcare last August, when Obama only published his half-assed "plan" yesterday? It doesn't even contain enough specifics for the CBO to score.

I guess you haven't been following what's happened, and what has been trying to work through the House and Senate, and public polling from early last summer, since this President was elected.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, if so, we would have had health care last August

umm no

that was my point an overwhelming majority of working American are totally against any Obama healthcare reform

[Riot]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

umm no

that was my point an overwhelming majority of working American are totally against any Obama healthcare reform

This President was elected with one of the largest electoral majorities in history, and ran on a platform including healthcare reform.

Polls that show people are "against healthcare reform" didn't start to go that way until after the protracted arguments within the Senate and House, and the August recess emphasizing loud and persistent lying about crap like "death panels will kill your grandma!"

Yet people today still overwhelmingly support the creation of the public option, and still strongly support individual health insurance reforms when line itemized.

My point is the Dems should have listened to their constituents last year, and passed healthcare reform by August.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

umm no

that was my point an overwhelming majority of working American are totally against any Obama healthcare reform

wheres the proof..