Obama for Small Business

[dellinger63]

I think he may be so used to getting on his knees to pass his socialist
agend(i), he's starting to enjoy it...

[Riot]

LOL - yeah, that mythical "socialist agenda" is why liberals are complaining he hasn't been progressive enough, and his poll numbers have fallen among independent liberals

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - yeah, that mythical "socialist agenda" is why liberals are complaining he hasn't been progressive enough, and his poll numbers have fallen among independent liberals

Yea that's it he hasn't been progressive enough LOL

and that's why 56-58% of this country don't want government health care and those progressive liberals (socialists) in Mass are turning out for Brown.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Yea that's it he hasn't been progressive enough LOL

and that's why 56-58% of this country don't want government health care and those progressive liberals (socialists) in Mass are turning out for Brown.

Yeah, Dell, he hasn't been progressive enough for the independents that voted him in. Look at the healthcare polls - but look at poll numbers that ask the right questions, that show people still do want healthcare reform (just like who elected him) - what they don't want the crappy, useless Senate version.

Separate out those folks from that 56-58%, what you are left with is the normal GOP that says no, the normal Dems that say yes, and independents saying "no to crap" .

After the Senate passed their version of healthcare reform, the majority of calls not to pass it (that version) came from the disappointed ultra-progressive left. Surprisingly, not the right.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, Dell, he hasn't been progressive enough for the independents that voted him in. Look at the healthcare polls - but look at poll numbers that ask the right questions, that show people still do want healthcare reform (just like who elected him) - what they don't want the crappy, useless Senate version.

so those independents have bailed and now are coming out for conservative- independent Brown and other repubs in the case of NJ and Virg, or just so disgusted they are staying home and not voting? And I think you're looking at polls asking the 'right' people not 'right' questions as in Huffington visitors and ACORN office workers aka 'Pimp and Ho Consultants, LLC'.

Like Pelosi said no matter what the people in Mass want, healthcare will get done. Very tough to make decisions on anything other than what the people want and keep the people's support but that is what elections and tonight are all about. The future's finally looking brighter and we're finally seeing the results of all that spending like a drunkin sailor, Obama has done!

[Riot]

From what I've seen the super-left liberals are angry Obama hasn't done more, and they were openly calling for not passing this healthcare reform as it stands (the Senate version), as it's "too weak". I've seen more pointed op-ed criticisms of Obama and economics/healthcare on Kos, Slate, HuffPo type sites than Fox!

But no, those are not who are voting for Brown and GOP candidates from what I've seen. Brown voters, if he gets elected today, I would guess are the "middle go either way" type of folks that classify themselves not as Dem or GOP, but Independent. The GOP is far outnumbered by Dems in Mass, but Dems are outnumbered by Independents. The Ind. control this election in Mass.

[dellinger63]

Just a coincidence the independent vote has been democratic for the past 50yrs?