Lets hope Halladay is a playoff stud like Lee

[SniperSB23]

The Rockies went to the World Series in 2007, improved in the offseason and finished 14 games under .500 the next season. The NL is always so balanced without the elite teams so whoever gets hot down the stretch winds up in the World Series. The Phillies had a chance to completely offset that and become the elite National League team and opted for $15 million and some second rate prospects instead. It's a cheap move, plain and simple. They remain a top contender in the National League but they could have been THE contender.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The Rockies went to the World Series in 2007, improved in the offseason and finished 14 games under .500 the next season. The NL is always so balanced without the elite teams so whoever gets hot down the stretch winds up in the World Series. The Phillies had a chance to completely offset that and become the elite National League team and opted for $15 million and some second rate prospects instead. It's a cheap move, plain and simple. They remain a top contender in the National League but they could have been THE contender.

They will be the preseason favorite for the NL easily. And in the top 3 favs to win the Series out of all of baseball. Any team that goes to back to back WS is an elite team. We have some clutch hitters that love to be in the big spots. That seperates us from other contenders (like the Rockies)

I completely agree that trading Lee was a cheap move and should not have been done. But people keep forgetting that we do have the BEST pitcher in baseball now.

If we kept Lee and none of these trades happened nobody would be down on the Phillies. They made some moves that not only make us better next year but for the next 4 years. They did the right thing getting Halladay. If Lee needed to be sacrificed to get Halladay it was the right move. I really wish they would have man upped and paid Lee his 9 mil. But hey, I'm not going to be as greedy as Yankee fans.

Its not going to be easy to get to a 3rd straight World Series. I'm not sure if its been done with an NL team in the history of baseball.. and if it has it was 50+ years ago. But we are in the right position to make that run.

remember our lineup is still going to be:

Rollins, Polanco, Utley, Howard, Werth, Ibanez, Victorino, Ruiz. Best lineup in baseball. If they were smart they'd put Victorino in the leadoff spot and Rollins in the 7th spot but they have this thing with loyalty that sometimes goes too far (pitching Lidge in the WS).

[Smooth Operator]

Of course they cheaped out, Sniper

It was a bush-league call … like we've come to expect from the ringless 'geniuses' who run the show with the football team.

Spin-maestro losers like Antichrist32 always have a tough time handling the truth...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Of course they cheaped out, Sniper

It was a bush-league call … like we've come to expect from the ringless 'geniuses' who run the show with the football team.

Spin-maestro losers like Antichrist32 always have a tough time handling the truth...

The truth being that we are still the team to beat in the NL?


The Eagles are nothing like the Phillies. the Phillies have guys who LOVE clutch situations, the Eagles have guys that puke.

What the f is your problem?

Do you think Halladay sucks or something?

You sound like a Yankee fan.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

They will be the preseason favorite for the NL easily. And in the top 3 favs to win the Series out of all of baseball. Any team that goes to back to back WS is an elite team. We have some clutch hitters that love to be in the big spots. That seperates us from other contenders (like the Rockies)

I completely agree that trading Lee was a cheap move and should not have been done. But people keep forgetting that we do have the BEST pitcher in baseball now.

If we kept Lee and none of these trades happened nobody would be down on the Phillies. They made some moves that not only make us better next year but for the next 4 years. They did the right thing getting Halladay. If Lee needed to be sacrificed to get Halladay it was the right move. I really wish they would have man upped and paid Lee his 9 mil. But hey, I'm not going to be as greedy as Yankee fans.

Its not going to be easy to get to a 3rd straight World Series. I'm not sure if its been done with an NL team in the history of baseball.. and if it has it was 50+ years ago. But we are in the right position to make that run.

remember our lineup is still going to be:

Rollins, Polanco, Utley, Howard, Werth, Ibanez, Victorino, Ruiz. Best lineup in baseball. If they were smart they'd put Victorino in the leadoff spot and Rollins in the 7th spot but they have this thing with loyalty that sometimes goes too far (pitching Lidge in the WS).

If you gave me the over/under on games played in 2010 with the line set as their games played in 2009 I would bet the under on all of them and make a lot of money. No one stays that healthy two years in a row, especially not when they played additional games in the postseason.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If you gave me the over/under on games played in 2010 with the line set as their games played in 2009 I would bet the under on all of them and make a lot of money. No one stays that healthy two years in a row, especially not when they played additional games in the postseason.

Utley and Ibanez were both hurt at certain times last year

As well as Hamels and other pitchers.

I'm not making predictions based on assuming guys will get injured. There are steriods to make you heal better as well.

And we picked up a bench guy who will be able to give Rollins and Utley more games off in 2010.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Utley and Ibanez were both hurt at certain times last year

As well as Hamels and other pitchers.

I'm not making predictions based on assuming guys will get injured. There are steriods to make you heal better as well.

And we picked up a bench guy who will be able to give Rollins and Utley more games off in 2010.

Utley played 156 games last year. Ibanez played 134 which is a lot to expect from him next year at his age. And yes, steroids do help them heal. The Mets need to get that guy that was supplying everyone in the Mitchell Report back.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Utley played 156 games last year. Ibanez played 134 which is a lot to expect from him next year at his age. And yes, steroids do help them heal. The Mets need to get that guy that was supplying everyone in the Mitchell Report back.

Ibanez had a great 1st half of the season.. maybe in the top 3 best in baseball, got hurt and was not the same after that.

Utley played 156 games because there was noone competent to replace him a few games. We fixed that. He has a bad hip. He just plays hurt alot. Tough as nails.