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Old 09-20-2006, 09:41 PM
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He loves Churchill Downs, but it will take him more than Leparoux for him to quit hanging.....I'm convinced that this horse will never win against good horses again...he can't beat any horse that wants to fight him in the stretch....Plus, he's not as fast as he once was...

I like him but he would have to cut through the infield to beat the younger and more talented Bernardini in the Breeders' Cup....
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Old 09-20-2006, 11:26 PM
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He loves Churchill Downs, but it will take him more than Leparoux for him to quit hanging.....I'm convinced that this horse will never win against good horses again...he can't beat any horse that wants to fight him in the stretch....Plus, he's not as fast as he once was...

I like him but he would have to cut through the infield to beat the younger and more talented Bernardini in the Breeders' Cup....


I'm convinced that this horse will never win against good horses again.

so are you saying g2 and g3 horses are not good horses and drift wont win a grade 2 or 3 ever again? your splitting hairs, that comment would be foolish if he had a longer nose or a little more luck in the foster a grade 1 with so called good horses-buzzards bay and brass hat. you would not say that but after the fact you do. don't forget he lost a grade 1 by not even a nose. trust me this horse is capable of pulling one off at any time

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Old 09-21-2006, 11:13 AM
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I'm convinced that this horse will never win against good horses again.

so are you saying g2 and g3 horses are not good horses and drift wont win a grade 2 or 3 ever again? your splitting hairs, that comment would be foolish if he had a longer nose or a little more luck in the foster a grade 1 with so called good horses-buzzards bay and brass hat. you would not say that but after the fact you do. don't forget he lost a grade 1 by not even a nose. trust me this horse is capable of pulling one off at any time
Maybe so but when do the excuses stop? Its always if, if, if. This horse just doesnt like to win. Simple as that. He hangs in the stretch.

He does fill out an exotic nicely though.
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:03 PM
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I don't think it is a stretch at all to say that Perfect Drift doesn't belong in the Classic considering he hasn't run a triple digit Beyer all year. Most people would toss a horse from consideration in the Derby under those circumstances so saying he doesn't belong in the Classic seems pretty reasonable. He was a very nice horse that accomplished some wonderful things but he just isn't BC Classic material anymore.
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:05 PM
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Maybe so but when do the excuses stop? Its always if, if, if. This horse just doesnt like to win. Simple as that. He hangs in the stretch.

He does fill out an exotic nicely though.

excuses for what? that he shouldnt be in the bcc this year? thats what im debating , not if hes going to win it. so he doesnt win does that mean he doesnt belong in the claasic? thats what im debating here. and those are legit reasons to be in the bcc.
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:39 AM
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excuses for what? that he shouldnt be in the bcc this year? thats what im debating , not if hes going to win it. so he doesnt win does that mean he doesnt belong in the claasic? thats what im debating here. and those are legit reasons to be in the bcc.
My point about excuses were simply in reference to what i always hear about perfect drift. "it was only a nose" or "if the jockey had started him sooner". That kind of thing.

How many jockeys is the horse on now? They dont like Guidry. They didnt like Desormeaux. I guess they didnt like Gary Stevens either.

As far as him not "belonging", i dont agree with that. He belongs in there to have a shot at a minor placing. To win? You are just giving your money away if you bet him to win at this point. I will defiinitely have him underneath though in tris and supers.
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:08 AM
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I agree with Buffy Perfect drift has shown up and ran as hard as he could for alot longer than some horses out there so let him run and to be honest I dont expect him to win , but I want him to and I will always when he is running place a wager on him to win because I feel he deserves respect just because hes still running and trying.
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Old 09-22-2006, 07:58 AM
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I agree with Buffy Perfect drift has shown up and ran as hard as he could for alot longer than some horses out there so let him run and to be honest I dont expect him to win , but I want him to and I will always when he is running place a wager on him to win because I feel he deserves respect just because hes still running and trying.
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Honestly, I took offense to those that said he didn't belong in the race. Nothing wrong with running for second or third place money. I have faith that he may win it! I always do.
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:39 AM
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He can run in whatever spot he wants but he simply has no shot whatsoever and based on his performances this year, you know...his current form, he does not belong in the race anymore than Funny Cide does.

Sorry if his fan club/cheerleaders don't like this but it's the truth. He will be in the 40-1 vicinity in this year's BC Classic without a significant rash of injuries.

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Old 09-22-2006, 08:50 AM
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I'm wondering if the Euros will make any impact in the Cup in the Classic.
They don't run very often, most of the time running the big guns in the Turf.
But they have been represented quite well with some longshots who hit the board and even won one with Arcangues.
I remember Ibn Bey running 2nd to Unbridled at about 60-1. Arcangues winning at 99-1. Also remember Jolypha(a filly) running 3rd to Ap Indy.
Sakhee got beat a nose to Tiznow. Of course there is always the famous Swain debacle where he was the best in the race and Dettori kept windmill whipping until he was on the outer fence. They have been represented quite well and usually with their 2nd tier horses.
I think more of them would have been factors had they tried the Classic.
The extra week later that its being run this year should help them, as well as a climate that will be very close to what they are leaving from at home.
With the older division falling apart and not many bonafide contenders, it wouldn't shock me if Euros had an impact in the Classic this year.
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:02 AM
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He can run in whatever spot he wants but he simply has no shot whatsoever and based on his performances this year, you know...his current form, he does not belong in the race anymore than Funny Cide does.

Sorry if his fan club/cheerleaders don't like this but it's the truth. He will be in the 40-1 vicinity in this year's BC Classic without a significant rash of injuries.
You're entitled to your opinion. I just think he's just as qualified as most of the other mules running in this race and he deserves a shot. He seems to love hitting the board and if he goes off at 40-1, I hope he does hit the board.
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:36 PM
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He can run in whatever spot he wants but he simply has no shot whatsoever and based on his performances this year, you know...his current form, he does not belong in the race anymore than Funny Cide does.

Sorry if his fan club/cheerleaders don't like this but it's the truth. He will be in the 40-1 vicinity in this year's BC Classic without a significant rash of injuries.


drift is still more competitive the cide right now and you know that.
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