not 1 dirt horse

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I'm looking forward to a return to the Breeders' Cup on traditional dirt, but New York-based horses have never performed well in the non-turf races in Breeders' Cups held in California. Prior to Pro-ride, the speed-favoring nature of the Hollywood and Santa Anita ovals was blamed for Eastern disappointments, so I don't know what the past two years' results prove.

the results prove nothing. this year i bet it with just poly and grass horses. did great friday. but as far as calling it "world championships". thats a joke. the dirt horses never run to potential and after two years in a row its even more obvious. the dirt horses seem to have no shot. they make a big deal of the classic where a dirt horse did not hit the board in two years. give me a break. gio ponti would never even enter a dirt race and he is second in the classic? it was a nice couple days with nice racing, but, calling it "championships" is a lie and a joke. now everyone knows why half the "dirt" horses did not show and i can't blame them.

[MISTERGEE]

it is however the pro cush/poly world championship

[richard]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

the results prove nothing.

[letswastemoney]

I disagree that the results prove nothing. The results prove who is best on a synthetic surface.

[IrishS]

I have been to Breeders Cups at 4 different tracks, including SA 3 times. By far the most enjoyable racing experience has been at Santa Anita in terms of ease of betting, getting to the paddock and back to the track, standing in line for food, and this year I had it figured out and won big. And, this year no break downs--most importantly. The worst experience was Churchhill. The crowds made it imposible to get to paddock at all and almost hard to see horses come out on track and still bet. And breakdowns. If BC stays more in the cold of the east with dirt at least have more BCs at Belmont. This was also great for the race viewer.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I disagree that the results prove nothing. The results prove who is best on a synthetic surface.

oh yeah, you are right. it proves what grass horses love the pro ride. its great how they call the races "classics", "dirt" sprint and "dirt" mile.......lol

[Honu]

Its funny , alot of people blame the synthetic track here in Cali for horses bad performances and trainers not wanting to come and run , but Id love know how many folks on the east coast had compliments for our old dirt track ?
I dont really recall trainers from the east ever saying , "wow that sure is a fine dirt track they have at Santa Anita" or " boy that track at Santa Anita sure is kind ".
Most heard from the east was "the tracks in Cali are like running down the 405 freeway" or "Im not going to run my horse on that pavement they call a racetrack in Cali". Hell even the owner of the place didnt want to race his freak Ghostzapper on it for fear of what it might do to the horse.

There are alot of rumors going around about the track going back to dirt , here's what we get to look forward to: Running on a sealed track when it rains , the backside drying out while the frontside is still a boggy marsh , horses breaking down and dying alot more often and less Euro intrest in running in the World Championships. Sounds great to me.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Honu

Its funny , alot of people blame the synthetic track here in Cali for horses bad performances and trainers not wanting to come and run , but Id love know how many folks on the east coast had compliments for our old dirt track ?
I dont really recall trainers from the east ever saying , "wow that sure is a fine dirt track they have at Santa Anita" or " boy that track at Santa Anita sure is kind ".
Most heard from the east was "the tracks in Cali are like running down the 405 freeway" or "Im not going to run my horse on that pavement they call a racetrack in Cali". Hell even the owner of the place didnt want to race his freak Ghostzapper on it for fear of what it might do to the horse.

There are alot of rumors going around about the track going back to dirt , here's what we get to look forward to: Running on a sealed track when it rains , the backside drying out while the frontside is still a boggy marsh , horses breaking down and dying alot more often and less Euro intrest in running in the World Championships. Sounds great to me.

Respectfully this is nonsense.. If they replace the rubber with a state of the art new dirt formation it certainly would be fine. Imagine if they rebuilt the dirt surface with all the new technology that is currently available? I think IF they hired the right folks and spent the appropiate amount of money SA could have a fantastic brand spanking new dirt track. It COULD be the envy of the world..As for the breakdown and your allegations that dirt kills horses, I strongly suggest you forward some factual evidence because if it is indeed true, dirt tracks should be abolished AT ONCE since nobody wants horses dying.. Unfortunately and I mean that sincerely there doesnt seem to be one single thread of evidence supporting your allegations that rubber is safer.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Respectfully this is nonsense.. If they replace the rubber with a state of the art new dirt formation it certainly would be fine. Imagine if they rebuilt the dirt surface with all the new technology that is currently available? I think IF they hired the right folks and spent the appropiate amount of money SA could have a fantastic brand spanking new dirt track. It COULD be the envy of the world..As for the breakdown and your allegations that dirt kills horses, I strongly suggest you forward some factual evidence because if it is indeed true, dirt tracks should be abolished AT ONCE since nobody wants horses dying.. Unfortunately and I mean that sincerely there doesnt seem to be one single thread of evidence supporting your allegations that rubber is safer.

Id love to know about this " new dirt technology" , can you tell me which tracks have it and maybe where I could find more informaation about it . Where is the racetrack located that last installed the "new dirt technology".