HOTY: If Zenyatta wins the Classic...

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Zenyatta's a proven dirt horse because of one race at Oaklawn? Zenyatta is a synthetic horse who proved she can run on dirt.

Zenyatta would make an awfully fascinating Dubai World Cup winner on the new synthetic surface in the inaugural running at Meydan.

NT

Well she certainly can't be labeled a turf horse.
My point is that Summer Bird (or any proven dirt runner) could be a successful synthetic runner if he was given more opportunities.
Zenyatta runs her races in her locale which happens to be synthetic.If she was given more opportunities she could as she did in her only attempt be as good or better on dirt.

[2Hot4TV]

Zenyatta would of beat them on dirt too.

[letswastemoney]

No one can say Zenyatta can beat RA on dirt because the match up will never happen!!!!!

How quickly people forget RA's accomplishments

People only remember the last thing to happen. I am not saying Zenyatta wouldn't be a worthy HOY, but it's a bit presumptuous to assume Zenyatta would thump RA on dirt based off one dirt race.

[Cannon Shell]

Regardless of all the HoY bs I think it has been understated just how good of a ride Mike Smith gave her yesterday. That was flawless. Mike has been knocked a lot over the last few years and in some cases deservedly so, but that was one of the all-time money rides.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Regardless of all the HoY bs I think it has been understated just how good of a ride Mike Smith gave her yesterday. That was flawless. Mike has been knocked a lot over the last few years and in some cases deservedly so, but that was one of the all-time money rides.

She really was a lot better then these Chuck..She gave Smith the ride all he did was stay out of the way.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

She really was a lot better then these Chuck..She gave Smith the ride all he did was stay out of the way.

I give up.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I give up.

I give him credit for winning with the best horse..Arent you suppose to win if you have clearly the fastest horse?

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No one can say Zenyatta can beat RA on dirt because the match up will never happen!!!!!

How quickly people forget RA's accomplishments

People only remember the last thing to happen. I am not saying Zenyatta wouldn't be a worthy HOY, but it's a bit presumptuous to assume Zenyatta would thump RA on dirt based off one dirt race.

RA wants no part of a 1 1/4 mile race, the only way she will win at 1 1/4 against top notch horse is if she steals it on the front end. That isnt going to happen.

NO way could RA lay back and win No matter what the pace is and Zenyatta has done just that.

14 times she went to post any did just what it took to win, if they went 5 lenghts faster she would of won.

Zenyatta got 1 to 3 pounds where RA got 5 and just hung on to win.

Zenyatta closed the final 1/4 in 22 and change to overhaul this years Classic field and they were not backing up.

I would of liked to have seen her run at Churchill Downs, but it rained and her owners didn't want to take the chance.

Jess Jackson stayed at home and played it safe, even though RA has shown she will run on synthetics.

Jerry Moss said today that Zenyatta was done racing after what was her biggest highlight and when asked if he thought she should be horse of the year he said "She is his horse of the year and thats all that counts to him and his wife." Pure Class!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

RA wants no part of a 1 1/4 mile race, the only way she will win at 1 1/4 against top notch horse is if she steals it on the front end. That isnt going to happen.

NO way could RA lay back and win No matter what the pace is and Zenyatta has done just that.

14 times she went to post any did just what it took to win, if they went 5 lenghts faster she would of won.

Zenyatta got 1 to 3 pounds where RA got 5 and just hung on to win.

Zenyatta closed the final 1/4 in 22 and change to overhaul this years Classic field and they were not backing up.

I would of liked to have seen her run at Churchill Downs, but it rained and her owners didn't want to take the chance.

Jess Jackson stayed at home and played it safe, even though RA has shown she will run on synthetics.

Jerry Moss said today that Zenyatta was done racing after what was her biggest highlight and when asked if he thought she should be horse of the year he said "She is his horse of the year and thats all that counts to him and his wife." Pure Class!

You sound like the folks that call WFAN sports talk radio in NY..If you dare suggest A Rod is great it must mean you are dissing Jeter.. They are both awesome and your guess that Rachel wants no part of 10f's or if she could handle zenyatta on dirt or rubber is just an opinion that will never be able to be justified on the track.. Rachel will get 10f's and currently nothing in the male or female ranks can touch her as Zenyatta is retired. Understand she still has to winter well and come back that isnt always a sure thing

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You sound like the folks that call WFAN sports talk radio in NY..If you dare suggest A Rod is great it must mean you are dissing Jeter.. They are both awesome and your guess that Rachel wants no part of 10f's or if she could handle zenyatta on dirt or rubber is just an opinion that will never be able to be justified on the track.. Rachel will get 10f's and currently nothing in the male or female ranks can touch her as Zenyatta is retired. Understand she still has to winter well and come back that isnt always a sure thing

the great ones rarely drop off between 3 and 4

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You sound like the folks that call WFAN sports talk radio in NY..If you dare suggest A Rod is great it must mean you are dissing Jeter.. They are both awesome and your guess that Rachel wants no part of 10f's or if she could handle zenyatta on dirt or rubber is just an opinion that will never be able to be justified on the track.. Rachel will get 10f's and currently nothing in the male or female ranks can touch her as Zenyatta is retired. Understand she still has to winter well and come back that isnt always a sure thing

[citycat]

I think the debate is great for our sport. At least we are in the headlines for something very positive.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

No one can say Zenyatta can beat RA on dirt because the match up will never happen!!!!!

How quickly people forget RA's accomplishments

People only remember the last thing to happen. I am not saying Zenyatta wouldn't be a worthy HOY, but it's a bit presumptuous to assume Zenyatta would thump RA on dirt based off one dirt race.

That is why I posted the link to all of their races above and I only hope whoever does have a vote for this silly award takes the time to absorb both horses' body of work this year.