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Old 10-29-2009, 10:18 AM
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I said Yanks in 7. I never discounted or taken the Phillies lightly. I think that they are a very good team. Solid pitching and a very dangerous lineup with no real holes in it.
Sure they could still win the series if the lose tonight. Hell they could win if they go down 3-0. They did win 100 some odd games this year. A four game winning streak with this club is within the realm of possibility. But by no means will it be easy. You can't just turn it on and off against a team that is as good as the Phills. I really think you are discounting how good they actually are.

i know they are good , but without lee , and getting him in the middle of the season , do you really think they would be here without him?
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:20 AM
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i know they are good , but without lee , and getting him in the middle of the season , do you really think they would be here without him?

you are such and idiot and I hope every team you root for loses every game they play for the rest of your life.

I'm gonna do work before I try to choke you through my computer screen.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:25 AM
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you are such and idiot and I hope every team you root for loses every game they play for the rest of your life.

I'm gonna do work before I try to choke you through my computer screen.

explain it to me how they are here without lee? i don't see it , pedro is your 2nd starter , hamels stinks , blanton stinks , if you don't have lee how are you even in the playoffs???
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:28 AM
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explain it to me how they are here without lee? i don't see it , pedro is your 2nd starter , hamels stinks , blanton stinks , if you don't have lee how are you even in the playoffs???
It doesn't matter, they got him and they are here. You can't play the if and what game. It's irrelevant!
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:33 AM
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explain it to me how they are here without lee? i don't see it , pedro is your 2nd starter , hamels stinks , blanton stinks , if you don't have lee how are you even in the playoffs???

ok last post until after lunch break.

WE ARE THE DEFENDING WORLD FREAKING CHAMPIONS GALES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pedro has been lights out. Hamels was the MVP of the World Series last year! He's had a rough year no doubt! Blanton is a bulldog.. you can say he sucks all you want but he's and iron horse and has been great for our team. Happ won like 12 or more games and was voted rookie of the year by his PEERS. Moyer won a ton of games and he's over the hill!!!

We blew 17 fucl<ing saves and STILL won the NL East!

There's these guys, I dont know if you have ever heard of them but their names are:

Jimmy Rollins
Shane Victorino
Chase "Fucl< You" Utley
Ryan "Just get me to the plate, boys" Howard
Jason "Anything Chase and Ryan can do I can do also" Werth
Raul Ibanez
Pedro Feliz (ok he isnt that great but he fields very well)
Carlos "Mr Red and White October" Ruiz

I suggest you look into these guys. Maybe you will come to understand there is more to baseball then just the guys on the mound. oh yeah, the guys on the mound also already have rings that have like 106 diamonds in it.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:48 AM
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ok last post until after lunch break.

WE ARE THE DEFENDING WORLD FREAKING CHAMPIONS GALES!!!!!!!!!!!!

We blew 17 fucl<ing saves and STILL won the NL East!

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That. That Lidge went 0-8 with 11 blown saves with a 7 ERA and the team won 93 games still...speaks to just how incredibly talented they are. Lidge gets a lifetime pass in Philly with his perfect 2008, and he has pitched well in postseason this year. But anyone who is surprised by anything this team does hasn't paid attention. They are by the way 4-2 in non-Lee pitched postseason games this year.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:54 AM
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[quote=horseofcourse]That. That Lidge went 0-8 with 11 blown saves with a 7 ERA and the team won 93 games still...speaks to just how incredibly talented they are. Lidge gets a lifetime pass in Philly with his perfect 2008, and he has pitched well in postseason this year. But anyone who is surprised by anything this team does hasn't paid attention. They are by the way 4-2 in non-Lee pitched postseason games this year.[/QUOTE]

My point exactly. Too much focus on the starters and not enough on the guys hitting scoring the runs. How about some talk about Ryan Howard? The guy has been en fuego for the last 3 weeks. His swing is like Juniors...smooth as butter.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:58 AM
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That. That Lidge went 0-8 with 11 blown saves with a 7 ERA and the team won 93 games still...speaks to just how incredibly talented they are. Lidge gets a lifetime pass in Philly with his perfect 2008, and he has pitched well in postseason this year. But anyone who is surprised by anything this team does hasn't paid attention. They are by the way 4-2 in non-Lee pitched postseason games this year.

yes but pedro has only pitched out in la , does anyone not believe the cold does not affrect him , it affected him in his younger days , why won't it affect him at 38 ?

hamels started 2 games against the dodgers and 1 game against the rockies and stunk in all 3




the game that blanton started against la was blown by broxton in the 9th , he stinks too in big spots , does rivera have a better chance of winning that game with a lead in the 9th then broxton , what do you think

the 2 wins in cloroado (1 start with lee) had the rockies closer - street blow both games , does rivera blow those games???

my opinion is that the yanks have better starting ptiching than the phillies and while anything can happen in a 7 game series , i think pedro gets shelled tonight , i think hamels gets shelled in game 3 and i think blanton has no chance in a game 4 ....... burnett , petitie could get shelled , gaudin will get shelled , so we could be at 2-2 heading into game 5 or 3-1 yanks heading into game 5 , even if lee wins game 5 , we still have the edge in 6 +7
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:01 AM
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^^^

Still winning games before they are even played

(hey guess what, if we get shelled like you say we will in game 2 and 3 who do you think will be pitching game 4??)
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yes but pedro has only pitched out in la , does anyone not believe the cold does not affrect him , it affected him in his younger days , why won't it affect him at 38 ?

hamels started 2 games against the dodgers and 1 game against the rockies and stunk in all 3




the game that blanton started against la was blown by broxton in the 9th , he stinks too in big spots , does rivera have a better chance of winning that game with a lead in the 9th then broxton , what do you think

the 2 wins in cloroado (1 start with lee) had the rockies closer - street blow both games , does rivera blow those games???

my opinion is that the yanks have better starting ptiching than the phillies and while anything can happen in a 7 game series , i think pedro gets shelled tonight , i think hamels gets shelled in game 3 and i think blanton has no chance in a game 4 ....... burnett , petitie could get shelled , gaudin will get shelled , so we could be at 2-2 heading into game 5 or 3-1 yanks heading into game 5 , even if lee wins game 5 , we still have the edge in 6 +7
The Yankees are very good and certainly could win 4 straight. Winning game 1 is big. Every game one winner has won the series this postseason, and the last several World Series'. The series is far from over, but advantage Phils right now for sure. But honestly, do you really think Burnett has any less chance of getting shelled than Martinez or Hamels?? Pettite is a postseason stud...but it is unlikely he goes more than 6...7 is the absolute max for him. The way Hughes and Chamberlain are throwing, that would worry me considerably. That was the big problem last night....the bullpen...has been all postseason minus Mariano.
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yes but pedro has only pitched out in la , does anyone not believe the cold does not affrect him , it affected him in his younger days , why won't it affect him at 38 ?

hamels started 2 games against the dodgers and 1 game against the rockies and stunk in all 3




the game that blanton started against la was blown by broxton in the 9th , he stinks too in big spots , does rivera have a better chance of winning that game with a lead in the 9th then broxton , what do you think

the 2 wins in cloroado (1 start with lee) had the rockies closer - street blow both games , does rivera blow those games???

my opinion is that the yanks have better starting ptiching than the phillies and while anything can happen in a 7 game series , i think pedro gets shelled tonight , i think hamels gets shelled in game 3 and i think blanton has no chance in a game 4 ....... burnett , petitie could get shelled , gaudin will get shelled , so we could be at 2-2 heading into game 5 or 3-1 yanks heading into game 5 , even if lee wins game 5 , we still have the edge in 6 +7
uh Gales it isnt a 7 game series anymore. It is a 3 game series for the yankees. If they lose tonight it is a 2 game series. If they are down 0-3 it is a 1 game series.
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Old 10-29-2009, 03:33 PM
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the game that blanton started against la was blown by broxton in the 9th , he stinks too in big spots , does rivera have a better chance of winning that game with a lead in the 9th then broxton , what do you think
Who is this Broxton individual? He stinks in what spot?
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explain it to me how they are here without lee? i don't see it , pedro is your 2nd starter , hamels stinks , blanton stinks , if you don't have lee how are you even in the playoffs???
You think the Yankees are here without Sabathia and Teixeira and Burnett?

You know the 1/2 billion they spent last off season?
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:10 PM
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The thing you have to worry about with Burnett is that he is a high WHIP guy. High WHIP guys can get away with it against bad teams as they can get out weak hitters who don't take advantage of the men on base. Against better hitting teams high WHIP guys tend to give up more runs. This is pretty evident with Burnett who got killed this year by Boston, Philly, and Baltimore while dominating KC, Seattle, Florida, and the Mets. If Burnett can't control his WHIP and puts men on base the Phillies will take advantage.
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The thing you have to worry about with Burnett is that he is a high WHIP guy. High WHIP guys can get away with it against bad teams as they can get out weak hitters who don't take advantage of the men on base. Against better hitting teams high WHIP guys tend to give up more runs. This is pretty evident with Burnett who got killed this year by Boston, Philly, and Baltimore while dominating KC, Seattle, Florida, and the Mets. If Burnett can't control his WHIP and puts men on base the Phillies will take advantage.
good point. The way the umps call the game tonight will be a factor. If they squeeze the zone, it will be 9-7.
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You yankee fans think its all about you. Give the phillies credit! They are the defending champs. They have won on the road all season, they have four hitters who have hit over 30 home runs and have rollins and victorino who get on before their monster hitters. Pitching has been great even with hamels not being hamels. You should realize pedro has been here before and is looking forward to playing the yankees. Did you see how he pitched against the dodgers? Not to mention they never give up. They battle to the last strike and have come from behind all season. So yankee boy wake to reality your team is about to lose to a real champ! Who may become a dynasty in the making. Enjoy a roid and all those chumps that money can buy! Get ready to cry like steinbrenner!
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:26 AM
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My question is why is all the focus on Pedro tonight?

If I were a Yankee fan I would be more concerned with the Phillies hitters because in case you havent noticed, they are pretty good! And AJ Burnett is as much of a question mark as to which one will show up as Pedro, no?

I dont get it. Even if you guys (the Yankees) get 5-6 runs off Pedro, you still have to contain some pretty salty hitters on the Phillies.
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My question is why is all the focus on Pedro tonight?

If I were a Yankee fan I would be more concerned with the Phillies hitters because in case you havent noticed, they are pretty good! And AJ Burnett is as much of a question mark as to which one will show up as Pedro, no?

I dont get it. Even if you guys (the Yankees) get 5-6 runs off Pedro, you still have to contain some pretty salty hitters on the Phillies.

no pedro has no shot tonight timmy , burnett has some chance that is why the yanks are -170
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Quite a bed shitting last night by the bombers.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:33 AM
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no pedro has no shot tonight timmy , burnett has some chance that is why the yanks are -170
Sigh. Again, you arent getting my point. Pedro is getting way too much attention. He can allow 6 runs and the Yankees can still lose if the wild Burnett shows up. I think this is going to be an offensive shootout tonight.
There is no way this game will be decided by the 2 guys starting.

Stop talking about Pedro!
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