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10-21-2009, 12:48 PM
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10-21-2009, 12:55 PM
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Elusive Quality is like a top 5-to-10 two-surface horse based on speed figures ... but would probably be impossible to put in the top 500 because of his record.
Ultimate all-time poster horse for big speed figures against cheap horses and big flops in stakes. Elusive Quality ran a 122 Beyer on dirt as a 4yo and a 123 on dirt the next year. He also ran a 112 on turf - only a 113 by Da Hoss in the Breeders Cup Mile was higher on turf that year. The problem is that Elusive Quality never won a stakes race of any kind on dirt - and never won anything more than a Grade 3 on turf. Good sire though - he has a Kentucky Derby winner in Smarty Jones and a BC Classic winner in Raven's Pass .. as well as a top flight 3yo this year in Quality Road.
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10-21-2009, 01:04 PM
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einstein?
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10-21-2009, 01:10 PM
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He's top 5 three surfaces for sure.
Nice Brazil bred... but I'd give a slight edge to the Brazil bred Sandpit over Einstein.
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10-21-2009, 01:17 PM
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How about Blushing John, who just falls within the 20 year limit.
Winner of the French "2,000 guineas." Picked up an Eclipse as champ older horse in U.S. as a 4yo by winning the Hollywood Gold Cup, Pimlico Special, and finishing 3rd behind Easy Goer and Sunday Silence in the BCC.
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10-21-2009, 01:23 PM
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Ibn Bey would work though ... 2nd to Unbridled in the '90 BC Classic and a pretty good turf resume in Europe ... though I'd be lying through my teeth if I said I saw any of his Euro turf races - or even could gauge him. Jolypha was also 3rd in the BC Classic to AP Indy as a 3yo filly ... and was a multiple Group 1 winner in France before that. She lost too much tarnish though because she was a bust with Bobby Frankel as a 4yo.
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10-21-2009, 01:39 PM
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Would Mecke be included in an all-American top 20? Won the Super Derby, Arlington Million, and Early Times Classic. For international flair, he finished second and third in the Rothman's.
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10-21-2009, 01:50 PM
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