Henry Gates Jr. some simple rules to follow

[Rupert Pupkin]

I think Obama made a complete ass of himself with the comments he made about the incident. When he doesn't use his teleprompter and just talks off the cuff, that's when he puts his foot in his mouth.

He finally half-heartedly apologized today for his ignorant comments. He said,
"Because this has been ratcheting up and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up, I wanted to make clear in my choice of words I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police Department or Sgt. Crowley specifically," Obama said. "And I could have calibrated those words differently."

He "thinks he unfortunately gave an impression that he was maligning the Cambridge Police or Sgt. Crowley specifically". If that wasn't the impression he was trying to give then he probably shouldn't have accused them of "acting stupidly".

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think Obama made a complete ass of himself with the comments he made about the incident. When he doesn't use his teleprompter and just talks off the cuff, that's when he puts his foot in his mouth.

He finally half-heartedly apologized today for his ignorant comments. He said,
"Because this has been ratcheting up and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up, I wanted to make clear in my choice of words I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police Department or Sgt. Crowley specifically," Obama said. "And I could have calibrated those words differently."

He "thinks he unfortunately gave an impression that he was maligning the Cambridge Police or Sgt. Crowley specifically". If that wasn't the impression he was trying to give then he probably shouldn't have accused them of "acting stupidly".

but he did use those words.

and so he apologized.

what am i missing here? is he supposed to use special presidential wizard powers to go back in time to not say the words he's now apologising for. what's your point?

he f'd up. no doubt.

he admits it and issued an apology. in public and directly to the officer in a phone call. no waiting.

would it be clearer if he had a large "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" banner?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

but he did use those words.

and so he apologized.

what am i missing here? is he supposed to use special presidential wizard powers to go back in time to not say the words he's now apologising for. what's your point?

he f'd up. no doubt.

he admits it and issued an apology. in public and directly to the officer in a phone call. no waiting.

would it be clearer if he had a large "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" banner?

My point was two-fold. My first point was that his original remarks were way off-base. We both agree about that, so there is no argument there. My second point was that I thought his apology was sort of a luke-warm apology. He should have said, "I f'd up. I apologize." Instead he gave one of those apologies where he acts like his orginal words were misconstrued. His original words were not misconstrued. He said the wrong thing. He f'd up. That was my only beef with his apology. At least he apologized. I give him credit for that.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He apologized for two reasons.

1.) Because he's a politican

2.) Because people are morons.

I wonder why the charges were dropped so fast.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He apologized for two reasons.

1.) Because he's a politican

2.) Because people are morons.

I wonder why the charges were dropped so fast.

If the police are called to a scene for any reason, if you are ranting and raving at them and won't calm down, there is a good chance you are going to get arrested, even if you're on your own property.

This whole incident would have been avoided if this professor would have behaved like a normal person and just showed his identification.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If the police are called to a scene for any reason, if you are ranting and raving at them and won't calm down, there is a good chance you are going to get arrested, even if you're on your own property.

This whole incident would have been avoided if this professor would have behaved like a normal person and just showed his identification.

I agree.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I agree.

It's supposed to be a free country... it's not when an individual doesn't have a right to protest on private property.

Cops get people who brown nose them and even give them free stuff just for being cops ... but when they have their feelings hurt the bad ones forget they have a job.. and its to enforce the law and not punish the rude.

They act like they're basketball refs giving technical fouls or something. That disorderly conduct charge wouldn't have had a chance in hell standing up in court.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If the police are called to a scene for any reason, if you are ranting and raving at them and won't calm down, there is a good chance you are going to get arrested, even if you're on your own property.

This whole incident would have been avoided if this professor would have behaved like a normal person and just showed his identification.

I'm glad the professor made a big deal of this... because its a huge deal and its not talked about enough in this country.

If you put yourself in his shoes.. you would be extremely pissed too. History had proved that the professor is the good guy in this thing.. not the bad guy.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm glad the professor made a big deal of this... because its a huge deal and its not talked about enough in this country.

If you put yourself in his shoes.. you would be extremely pissed too. History had proved that the professor is the good guy in this thing.. not the bad guy.

Amazing that this "racist country" through and through elected a black president.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm glad the professor made a big deal of this... because its a huge deal and its not talked about enough in this country.

If you put yourself in his shoes.. you would be extremely pissed too. History had proved that the professor is the good guy in this thing.. not the bad guy.

I have no idea what you are talking about. What was the professor mad about? If I'm trying to break into my own house (or even my own car if I locked the keys inside) and the cops come up to me and ask me what I'm doing, I'm not going to start ranting and raving. I'm not going to be angry at them. I'm going to tell them that this is my house (or car) and show them my identification.

[Antitrust32]

Some white people close there eyes and believe racial profiling is made up. I happen to think its one of the worst problems with this country, if not the worst. I'm white & have a ton black friends from different area's of the country. Its crazy what they have had to deal with from cops that what I have (which is nothing).

You really can get pulled over for "driving while black". It happens every second in this country and its very embarrassing. You can get harrassed and searched just for walking down the darn street... I've never seen that happen to a white person though! And now apparantly you can get in trouble if you are black and your house proves you make a good living.

Its disgusting, and if Obama's comments pissed off some cops.. good. the one's here in Ocala are below human status when it comes to racial profiling.. just horrible.

Its 2009 and we are supposed to be a progressive country. Unfortunatly, some people, for reasons I will NEVER understand, think they are better than others.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Its 2009 and we are supposed to be a progressive country.

It's not a progressive country. He was running against a dumb guy, and a hildabeast. He's a natural leader, and short dumbo is a born opposition leader(big difference between those two.) When you combine the materialistically selfish(b.t.w...the majority who post in this political forum) with the Bible thumpers(again a type of selfishness,) that's a solid majority in this country.

[gales0678]

LORI please read what the black cop and hispanic cop who were there on the scene said about the incident

I'm not saying it does nox exist(racial profiling) in the USA or Ocala FL , but, take a good hard look at what the minority po's said about why he was pulled in in the 1st place

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think Obama made a complete ass of himself with the comments he made about the incident. When he doesn't use his teleprompter and just talks off the cuff, that's when he puts his foot in his mouth.

He finally half-heartedly apologized today for his ignorant comments. He said,
"Because this has been ratcheting up and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up, I wanted to make clear in my choice of words I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police Department or Sgt. Crowley specifically," Obama said. "And I could have calibrated those words differently."

He "thinks he unfortunately gave an impression that he was maligning the Cambridge Police or Sgt. Crowley specifically". If that wasn't the impression he was trying to give then he probably shouldn't have accused them of "acting stupidly".

Do you have rocks in your head? How did the cop not act stupidly?

He arrested a guy for "disorderly conduct" on his own property.

Why, because he asked for a badge number, the officers name, and bitched about a racial bias?

I think you still have the right to protest in public .. I think you still have the right to demand a cop identify himself in public .. when you can't protest and demand identification on your own private property - something is the matter with that. Whatever happened to free speech?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

but he did use those words.

and so he apologized.

And he's a complete puss for apologizing.

“I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station. I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, Professor Gates probably overreacted as well.”

The professor can overreact and be a dick all he wants .. he's on private property.

The cop's job is to enforce the law. He's not a high school principle out to punish rude behavior.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

And he's a complete puss for apologizing.




The professor can overreact and be a dick all he wants .. he's on private property.

The cop's job is to enforce the law. He's not a high school principle out to punish rude behavior.

he stepped in a pile of sh*t when he really had no reason to get involved. it was a local issue until he spoke up.

he doesn't need to be the black president. he needs to be the president. he got back to the latter when he wiped the crap off his shoes with an apology.

plus, i'd be glad he apologized even if there were pictures of the cop in a pointed white hood. now i don't have to worry about my neighbor's calling him and having to explain at work why the president's talking about my loud music.

he got more important things to do. installing socialism, taking everyones guns, and running secret internment camps for conservative radio hosts are higher priorities.

[dellinger63]

Gates, 58, a world-renowned scholar and documentary filmmaker on black history, allegedly ranted to police at his Ware Street home, “This is what happens to black men in America!” and “You don’t know who you’re messing with!” in addition to verbally dragging Crowley’s mother into the fray.

Oh no he didn't

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

he stepped in a pile of sh*t when he really had no reason to get involved. it was a local issue until he spoke up.

he doesn't need to be the black president. he needs to be the president. he got back to the latter when he wiped the crap off his shoes with an apology.

plus, i'd be glad he apologized even if there were pictures of the cop in a pointed white hood. now i don't have to worry about my neighbor's calling him and having to explain at work why the president's talking about my loud music.

he got more important things to do. installing socialism, taking everyones guns, and running secret internment camps for conservative radio hosts are higher priorities.

As long as he keeps pissing off the neo-cons, all is good. By the time he's re-elected, they'll still be looking for a candidate.

An angry conservative is a happy conservative

It's funny to see the spin on this.

If Dubya did this? Holy f.uck turds.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's funny to see the spin on this.

If Dubya did this? Holy f.uck turds.

We're not allowed to bring up Dubya

Every post by the right with their self RIGHTous, whoa is the US, all hell is breaking loose, we are f'd, he's an idiot, you're an idiot brings a smile to my face.