What is C BROWN UP TO?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by freddymo

then why have the detention barn at all , isn't it's primary reason in NY to stop cheating....are you telling us that it's ineffective and has holes in it that can be expolited?, if that's the case why have it at all , just for a public show?

The D Barn helps and very little bit that helps is good[/quote]


why not test randomly the 1st , 2nd and 3d places winners of certain races each day?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

why not test randomly the 1st , 2nd and 3d places winners of certain races each day?

They do. NYRA always tests the first three finishers of each race, blood and urine, split samples sent off to labs. They also have the authority to test any random horse in the race or all the horses if they feel like it.. but they ALWAYS test the first three.

Thats why you see grooms or exercise riders whistling at the horses in the barn after they have a breeze, because it teaches the horse to urinate when it hears the whistle.. so its easier on them in the test barn.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by gales0678

The D Barn helps and very little bit that helps is good

why not test randomly the 1st , 2nd and 3d places winners of certain races each day?[/quote]

It also hurts a lot of horses, a la Corinthian. Poor Jimmy Jerkens could have had himself a real superhorse.

[Fearless Leader]

The dentention barn is a completely useless waste of stall space and does nothing to protect the integrity of the game. It is a massive inconvienience perpetrated by a massive bureaucaracy. The creators were hoping it would become an industry standard and it has become nothing more than an industry joke.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader

The dentention barn is a completely useless waste of stall space and does nothing to protect the integrity of the game. It is a massive inconvienience perpetrated by a massive bureaucaracy. The creators were hoping it would become an industry standard and it has become nothing more than an industry joke.

[DaTruth]

Why not just do away with testing for performance-enhancers and let the best cheaters rise to the top of the heap. Then we can criticize the losing trainers not for being bad trainers, but for being bad chemists.

Of course, we don't want horses breaking down because they are given drugs that mask the symptoms of muscle fatigue. So, tissue and blood samples are taken from every horse that dies, breaks down, or is pulled up during or immediately after a race. If the samples contain any banned medication, criminal charges of animal cruelty can be brought against the trainer. If the states and the federal government can come up with extensive schedules of controlled dangerous substances banned for use by humans except under a doctor's supervision, then so can racing. 30 days away from the track and training centers is a vacation without pay for some trainers. 30 days in jail for first-time offenders might get some attention.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Why not just do away with testing for performance-enhancers and let the best cheaters rise to the top of the heap. Then we can criticize the losing trainers not for being bad trainers, but for being bad chemists.

Of course, we don't want horses breaking down because they are given drugs that mask the symptoms of muscle fatigue. So, tissue and blood samples are taken from every horse that dies, breaks down, or is pulled up during or immediately after a race. If the samples contain any banned medication, criminal charges of animal cruelty can be brought against the trainer. If the states and the federal government can come up with extensive schedules of controlled dangerous substances banned for use by humans except under a doctor's supervision, then so can racing. 30 days away from the track and training centers is a vacation without pay for some trainers. 30 days in jail for first-time offenders might get some attention.

The little problem of burden of proof may get in the way of your plan. You would need to prove that the drugs found in the system were a direct cause for the horse to breakdown which almost certainly wont be the case. Racing has an extensive list already hence the positive tests.