Did something happen to Calvin Borel today?

[herkhorse]

I don't know, but Coa is going to be sore tomorrow. Has anyone ever seen someone win a race after losing their irons. I'm not sure, but I think I saw Cordero do it once, or at least come real close.

[eajinabi]

Rail Burns

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

I don't know, but Coa is going to be sore tomorrow. Has anyone ever seen someone win a race after losing their irons. I'm not sure, but I think I saw Cordero do it once, or at least come real close.

I remember that race at Saratoga. Mid 80s? Cordero had his legs forward and was sitting straight up the whole trip. Almost pulled it off. Think he finished third.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

I remember that race at Saratoga. Mid 80s? Cordero had his legs forward and was sitting straight up the whole trip. Almost pulled it off. Think he finished third.

That sounds about right Slewbopper, maybe late 80's. I remember he even got the whip out in the lane.

[SuffolkGirl]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

I don't know, but Coa is going to be sore tomorrow. Has anyone ever seen someone win a race after losing their irons. I'm not sure, but I think I saw Cordero do it once, or at least come real close.

Fernando Jara lost one of his irons coming out of the gate on Jazil in the Belmont, they went on to win.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by SuffolkGirl

Fernando Jara lost one of his irons coming out of the gate on Jazil in the Belmont, they went on to win.

It's an easy thing to do when you're on an awesome horse.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

It's an easy thing to do when you're on an awesome horse.

Worst Belmont winner of the 21st Century:

A. Commendable
B. Sarava
C. Jazil
D. Da' Tara

That's a tough one, huh?

NT

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Worst Belmont winner of the 21st Century:

A. Commendable
B. Sarava
C. Jazil
D. Da' Tara

That's a tough one, huh?

NT

Obviously, I was joking.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Obviously, I was joking.

Oh, I know...the love for Jazil in this place has been there since Day 1.

For what it's worth- I'm voting A/B in my poll.

NT

[The Indomitable DrugS]

you guys are nuts if you think Da Tara is a better horse than Commendable or Sarava.

I'd say Da Tara is the worst from that list. He's 2-for-14 lifetime without ever having run a triple digit Beyer.

I'd say Jazil is easily 2nd worst. He was 2-for-11 lifetime and his only triple digit figure ever (a 102) came in a last to first pace collapse in a Belmont Stakes that was put on a silver platter for him.

The tough one is trying to decide who is worse between Commendable and Sarava.

Commenable was a halfway promising 2yo who easily broke his maiden at Del Mar on debut - and than ran 4th in the Del Mar futurity behind three buzzsaws in Forest Camp, Dixie Union, and Captain Steve.

In his final 3 Derby Preps .. He was beaten only a length by War Chant in the San Rafeal, only 3.75 lengths by Fusaichi Pegasus in the San Felipe, and only 3 lengths by Unshaded in the Lexington.

So he wasn't disgraced by that years Santa Anita Derby winner, Kentucky Derby winner, and Travers winner.

He ran like a Lukas horse that was pushed too hard to make the Derby when 17th. Skipped the Preakness and beat Aptitude and Unshaded in the Belmont.

He finished his career with a 3rd in the Travers and a 105 Beyer 2nd to Tiznow in the Super Derby.

Yes he was only 2-for-12 .. but he gave a good account of himself in every race but the Haskell and Derby - and he faced some real horses.

As for Sarava, while he was disgracefully bad for the majority of his career - he is the only one of the four to win more than 2 lifetime races .. and his good race was better than the good race for the other 3.

He beat Madaglia D' Oro in the Belmont - and as a 4yo he ran Beyers of 109 and 110 back to back when beaten a length by Peace Rules in the Suburban and 2.25 lengths by Roses in May in the Whitney.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Worst Belmont winner of the 21st Century:

A. Commendable
B. Sarava
C. Jazil
D. Da' Tara

That's a tough one, huh?

NT

A.

Originally Posted by herkhorse

I don't know, but Coa is going to be sore tomorrow. Has anyone ever seen someone win a race after losing their irons. I'm not sure, but I think I saw Cordero do it once, or at least come real close.

I did see this in a Euro race and I cant find it.
So strangely enough I looked up Horse racing oddities
on U-Tube and guess what is second on the list:

Calvin B. and Chuck S. should remember this one well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25rYfahlfA

[Pedigree Ann]

William Antongiorgy (did I spell that right?) won his first race at Hollywood Park after he lost his irons. He even stayed in a crouch. Is riding regularly up north (Bay area) these days.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I did see this in a Euro race and I cant find it.
So strangely enough I looked up Horse racing oddities
on U-Tube and guess what is second on the list:

Calvin B. and Chuck S. should remember this one well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25rYfahlfA

I don't think GBBob wants to see that again.