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Old 04-27-2009, 02:14 PM
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If we had a ton of picks to begin with, I wouldn't have minded the deal. But we ended up with basically two picks, and Sanchez will have no one to throw the ball to even if he excels this year. We're banking on David Clowney to become a #1/#2? Really? I'm not a big Shonn Greene fan either. I hope I'm wrong about both picks, but right now I feel like the defense will have to be amazing, because there will be no passing game to speak of.
I think the good thing for the Jets/Sanchez is, when they were playing well last year they were doing it with the run. They still have all the proponents of the running game there. So Sanchez won't be needed to come in and have to throw for 350 yards every week. They do need to get him another weapon or two, if for any reason just to keep defenses honest. But I think this is a good situation he is walking in to.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:25 PM
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I think Sanchez is the best QB that was drafted... No way would I spend a #1 pick on Stafford. If I were the lions I would have traded down or picked up Sanchez/Smith/Curry.

I get where you are coming from Joey with the no WR's thing.. but you can always pick them up.. Sanchez is IMO a franchise QB who will have an awesome career. He really should not start this year, but knowing how trigger happy teams are these days they will probably throw him in.

The future of the Jets is much better with this guy on your team.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:28 PM
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I think Sanchez is the best QB that was drafted... No way would I spend a #1 pick on Stafford. If I were the lions I would have traded down or picked up Sanchez/Smith/Curry.

I get where you are coming from Joey with the no WR's thing.. but you can always pick them up.. Sanchez is IMO a franchise QB who will have an awesome career. He really should not start this year, but knowing how trigger happy teams are these days they will probably throw him in.

The future of the Jets is much better with this guy on your team.
Throw in the fact that Rex Ryan got to see it happen first hand, successfully, just last year. The Jets are one playmaker away offensively.
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Throw in the fact that Rex Ryan got to see it happen first hand, successfully, just last year. The Jets are one playmaker away offensively.

I dont know... just because it worked out well last year for Flacco and Ryan, doesnt mean it should be the norm. I believe it is very beneficial for a QB to spend a year or two learning the system before they start.

I dont know much about the Jets o-line... is it solid? They had a good running game last year so it must be decent at least right?
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:40 PM
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I dont know... just because it worked out well last year for Flacco and Ryan, doesnt mean it should be the norm. I believe it is very beneficial for a QB to spend a year or two learning the system before they start.

I dont know much about the Jets o-line... is it solid? They had a good running game last year so it must be decent at least right?

well not solid eneough for the coach to go for it on some key 4 and 1's this year , well see how man genius does in Clev
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:42 PM
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I dont know much about the Jets o-line... is it solid? They had a good running game last year so it must be decent at least right?
Very good run blocking line, below average in pass blocking.
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The future of the Jets is much better with this guy on your team.
Here's my problem with this justification, and I hate using the term but: the Jets are built to win now. Even if Sanchez does develop to be great in 2-3 years, it's really one step forward and two steps back.

Look at all of the freaking money we've spent the last two offseasons. Now we're just going to let these contracts get paid out while waiting for a quarterback to develop?

Kris Jenkins is gonna be useless in two years. So is Faneca. TJ will be useless in two years. Pace is in his prime, Revis and Harris are entering their primes, Lito Sheppard is basically in a contract year this season. Leon will hopefully re-sign, but who knows for sure if he'll be here after this season? We just gave a billion dollars to Bart Scott, etc. etc.

The point is that I don't wanna hear about the Jets' future when we spent $200 million the last two offseasons. I don't wanna hear about how great Sanchez is gonna be in three years. Even if that pans out, what kind of team will he inherit and how much wasted money will there have been?

What's really disappointing to me is the overwhelming positive reaction from Jet fans. I understand that we haven't drafted a potential franchise QB in a while, and Sanchez is definitely an exciting pick, but jeez, these idiots are exactly the people Woody was banking on when demanding this trade. "OOOH! A SHINY NEW QUARTERBACK! CAN'T WAIT TO BUY HIS JERSEY SIX MONTHS BEFORE HE TAKES A SNAP!" They're also the same people who were turning over cars when Tangini didn't draft Leinart.

If they go out and get a receiver (who are these tons of receivers available?), he'd better be cheap. After the Sanchez contract gets done, the Jets will have next to no cap room.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:46 PM
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Here's my problem with this justification, and I hate using the term but: the Jets are built to win now. Even if Sanchez does develop to be great in 2-3 years, it's really one step forward and two steps back.

Look at all of the freaking money we've spent the last two offseasons. Now we're just going to let these contracts get paid out while waiting for a quarterback to develop?

Kris Jenkins is gonna be useless in two years. So is Faneca. TJ will be useless in two years. Pace is in his prime, Revis and Harris are entering their primes, Lito Sheppard is basically in a contract year this season. Leon will hopefully re-sign, but who knows for sure if he'll be here after this season? We just gave a billion dollars to Bart Scott, etc. etc.

The point is that I don't wanna hear about the Jets' future when we spent $200 million the last two offseasons. I don't wanna hear about how great Sanchez is gonna be in three years. Even if that pans out, what kind of team will he inherit and how much wasted money will there have been?

What's really disappointing to me is the overwhelming positive reaction from Jet fans. I understand that we haven't drafted a potential franchise QB in a while, and Sanchez is definitely an exciting pick, but jeez, these idiots are exactly the people Woody was banking on when demanding this trade. "OOOH! A SHINY NEW QUARTERBACK! CAN'T WAIT TO BUY HIS JERSEY SIX MONTHS BEFORE HE TAKES A SNAP!" They're also the same people who were turning over cars when Tangini didn't draft Leinart.

If they go out and get a receiver (who are these tons of receivers available?), he'd better be cheap. After the Sanchez contract gets done, the Jets will have next to no cap room.
how could sanchez not get past john david booty in pratice camp? does anyone really believe pete carroll wouldn't have put him in earlier if he tohught sanchez gave him a better chance that david booty
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how could sanchez not get past john david booty in pratice camp? does anyone really believe pete carroll wouldn't have put him in earlier if he tohught sanchez gave him a better chance that david booty
I would definately throw out that handicapping angle Marty.
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If they go out and get a receiver (who are these tons of receivers available?), he'd better be cheap. After the Sanchez contract gets done, the Jets will have next to no cap room.
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Huge drop to the group.
Michael Clayton
Jerry Porter
Ashley Lelie
Brandon Lloyd
DJ Hackett
Reggie Williams
Koren Robinson

Package up something nice and call Mangini for Brickhands, I mean Braylon Edwards. (that was tough to do to a Michigan alum.) In all honesty, I have no clue as to what they should do, but it has to be something. Mark CLayton and Malcom Floyd are unsigned restricted if i'm not mistaken.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:48 PM
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Huge drop to the group.
Michael Clayton
Jerry Porter
Ashley Lelie
Brandon Lloyd
DJ Hackett
Reggie Williams
Koren Robinson

Package up something nice and call Mangini for Brickhands, I mean Braylon Edwards. (that was tough to do to a Michigan alum.) In all honesty, I have no clue as to what they should do, but it has to be something. Mark CLayton and Malcom Floyd are unsigned restricted if i'm not mistaken.
Don't forget Matt Jones.
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Don't forget Matt Jones.
Uh, NO THANKS. Soft as a marshmellow, not to mention his off-field issues, I believe and hope the Jets will take a pass.
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Old 04-27-2009, 05:33 PM
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Uh, NO THANKS. Soft as a marshmellow, not to mention his off-field issues, I believe and hope the Jets will take a pass.
Agreed, I was kidding of course I wouldn't touch him either.
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Don't forget Matt Jones.
Amani Toomer, he even has a locker in the building.
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