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Old 04-20-2009, 11:25 PM
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We should use those 100% accurate gentler methods? Maybe ask them nicely if they are a terrorist?

Everybody in prison is innocent too, just ask them.
But the assumption that every one of the captives is a terrorist and should be punished without benefit of a trial goes against everything this country is based on. No?
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:36 PM
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But the assumption that every one of the captives is a terrorist and should be punished without benefit of a trial goes against everything this country is based on. No?
How can they realistically go to trial in our court system? They would all get off based upon the Miranda law. Our system isnt designed to deal with this type of problem but giving rights to foreign terrorists isnt a step in the right direction. There are bad things that happen in this world and it isnt fair. But these arent citizens of this country nor were they found in our country.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:56 PM
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How can they realistically go to trial in our court system? They would all get off based upon the Miranda law. Our system isnt designed to deal with this type of problem but giving rights to foreign terrorists isnt a step in the right direction. There are bad things that happen in this world and it isnt fair. But these arent citizens of this country nor were they found in our country.
Just to understand. You feel that is lawful and just for a goverment to go on foreign soil (war zone or not), kidnap a citizen of that foreign country, torture them and hold them captive for years...on grounds of suspicion.

Does that sum it up?
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:11 AM
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Just to understand. You feel that is lawful and just for a goverment to go on foreign soil (war zone or not), kidnap a citizen of that foreign country, torture them and hold them captive for years...on grounds of suspicion.

Does that sum it up?
Kidnap? that's kind of funny. Maybe you think we should be on trial then? How do you feel about killing them while in the war zone? Disarm the military and give them tasers? Maybe just throw wads of money at them and run away.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:16 AM
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Kidnap? that's kind of funny. Maybe you think we should be on trial then? How do you feel about killing them while in the war zone? Disarm the military and give them tasers? Maybe just throw wads of money at them and run away.
Not all the detainees were captured in war zones.

If you were walking down the street in your neighborhood and a van pulled up with masked men and they put a veil over your head and took you to another country...

would you call that kidnapping?
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:21 AM
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Not all the detainees were captured in war zones.

If you were walking down the street in your neighborhood and a van pulled up with masked men and they put a veil over your head and took you to another country...

would you call that kidnapping?
I'm sure there were tons of cases of isolated innocents being kidnapped by the secret army guys in white vans. And we are crazy?
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:27 AM
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I'm sure there were tons of cases of isolated innocents being kidnapped by the secret army guys in white vans. And we are crazy?
based on the stories that are coming forward from the few that have gotten out, my scenario is pretty accurate.

But then again, how would we know? Just like you said earlier to brian, we really wouldnt know. Thats the problem.
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Just to understand. You feel that is lawful and just for a goverment to go on foreign soil (war zone or not), kidnap a citizen of that foreign country, torture them and hold them captive for years...on grounds of suspicion.

Does that sum it up?

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Old 04-21-2009, 07:45 AM
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:26 AM
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Why my love?

Hi Dala!!


I just wanted to get your attention!!

but I think Dells responce was good enough.

"Kidnap? that's kind of funny. Maybe you think we should be on trial then? How do you feel about killing them while in the war zone? Disarm the military and give them tasers? Maybe just throw wads of money at them and run away."
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