"His mother-in-law is dying right now".. "I'm almost done."

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I must admit it is a bad situation but I think a white man woud have received the same treatment. Hint don't tell a cop you have no insurance and give him a license when asked. I did not see a gun come out..

No.. No they wouldn't. A white man gets out of that SUV and says what Moats said, that my mother in law is dying, and the cop hustles him inside and worries about the traffic infraction... done at an empty intersection... later.

And the gun came out as acknowledged by the officer himself.

Moats was as polite as can be. You couldn't hear the "yes sirs" and "no sirs" as this surly punk cop was dressing him down? The translation of that is "Yes massah" and "No massah"..

Rationalize it all you want. This was a brazen abuse of authority and came within inches of a hate crime had the cop further misread the situation. This kid should be sitting at a desk the rest of his civil service career.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Kasept

No.. No they wouldn't. A white man gets out of that SUV and says what Moats said, that my mother in law is dying, and the cop hustles him inside and worries about the traffic infraction... done at an empty intersection... later.

And the gun came out as acknowledged by the officer himself.

Moats was as polite as can be. You couldn't hear the "yes sirs" and "no sirs" as this surly punk cop was dressing him down? The translation of that is "Yes massah" and "No massah"..

Rationalize it all you want. This was a brazen abuse of authority and came within inches of a hate crime had the cop further misread the situation. This kid should be sitting at a desk the rest of his civil service career.

Steve I have white friends that have had thier asses kicked by young cops for less than this guy did in Saratoga no less.. Personally I have been treated in a similar fashion in Louisville. I am not defending the cop in any way but just saying that a lot of 25 year old cops act in this manner.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Steve I have white friends that have had thier asses kicked by young cops for less than this guy did in Saratoga no less.. Personally I have been treated in a similar fashion in Louisville. I am not defending the cop in any way but just saying that a lot of 25 year old cops act in this manner.

I've been bullied by cops as well. Police work is a thankless, dangerous job.. look at the horrific tragedy in Oakland... But common sense, decision making ability and compassion are supposed to be watch words of police duty. "To protect and serve" after all. If this kid can't figure out the scenario involved in people rushing to a hospital, how is he going to act in a truly threatening situation under duress? Based on his reaction in this low risk incident, he's a hazard to the public... be they white or black. And the DPD or any PD should be doing all they can to eliminate bullies and sadists from their forces. And I certainly agree that Saratoga-sized city cops and County Mountie types are as bad or worse with this problem as big city badges.

[dellinger63]

Steve, I was driving back from a case we were following at 26th and Cal. As I headed back towards the beautiful Dan Ryan I was pulled over for no apparant reason and then boxed in by a Det car. As I opened the door I was pulled out and put face down in the dirt w/a knee on my back and gun at my head. My infraction? Driving a vehicle w/tinted windows that matched a car used in a drive-by. Many other instances have happened to me while on surveillance and small town/suburb cops have the attitude they own the street and we have no right to be there. I think it's more of a police power trip than racism cause although I tan pretty well I'm still a cracker.

PS a gun definately should not have been pulled.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Kasept

No.. No they wouldn't. A white man gets out of that SUV and says what Moats said, that my mother in law is dying, and the cop hustles him inside and worries about the traffic infraction... done at an empty intersection... later.

And the gun came out as acknowledged by the officer himself.

Moats was as polite as can be. You couldn't hear the "yes sirs" and "no sirs" as this surly punk cop was dressing him down? The translation of that is "Yes massah" and "No massah"..

Rationalize it all you want. This was a brazen abuse of authority and came within inches of a hate crime had the cop further misread the situation. This kid should be sitting at a desk the rest of his civil service career.