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|  ny pick 4 today early + pic 3 payouts I am not going to complain i an not going to cry i just want to post some numbers and people can interpet them how they feel and respond  PIck 4 win parlay for $2 pays over $18,000 , actual $2 pick 4 pays 8,686 , or less than 50% of the win parlay of the winners Pick 3 races 2-4 pays $1,739 (win parlay pays $1,031) - this seems to be a good one races 3-5 pays $1,470 (win parlay pays $2,318) - can this be right? rces 4 -6 pays $2,364 9 (win parlay pays $2,982) how does the pick 3 payoff pay more for races 2-4 then races 3-5? i just don't get it? Last edited by gales0678 : 03-05-2009 at 02:20 PM. | 
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|   Not sure about this one, but on Foster day this year at Churchill the late P4 paid more than the P6.  Only time I have seen that. | 
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|   Marty, They are individual pools. There are vagaries. How have the guaranteed Saturday P4 pools paid like 2X the parlay these first three weeks? How does the Magna 5 pay twice the parlay some weeks? Multi-race pools are not formulamatic... 
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 Steve - shouldn't the p4's or p5's always pay more than the win parlay or at the very least around 85% of the win parlay? How can today's pick 4 come back only around 45% of the win parlay , i would have thought the early pick4should have paid around $25k i can understand a payout that is 80 - 90 % of the win parlay , but when we get down into the 60% or even today like the 40% range it's very strange | 
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|   see post #1 added races 4-6 | 
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 You do it for enjoyment? I do it because I love the pain of running 2nd all the f'n time | 
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 Please.. sometimes your horse finishes 4th (in a 2 horse race). | 
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|   No one has mentioned this, but since Aqueduct is the focus of the conversation, has it occured to anyone that the "Serling Effect" could be at work on the multi-race wagers? Any number of players that are simply stringing Andy's horses in P3/P4 sequences could be skewing returns. 
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|   I'd believe the Serling effect would be the exact opposite of the GPK effect, i.e., folks run from GPK's picks like rats from a sinking ship. 
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  Hello to you too John | 
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 that is correct steve , if 1 used his horses , you would have hit both p 4's i know what happened , the guys who hit the early p4 were so elated , they cashed out , headed back to the city , made a dinner reservation and invited andy out as a thank you for him giving out so many winners, they realized they forgot to put in the late p4 but they didn't care as the early one paid telephone #s i can see the gang there now , at Del Frisco's , they have just finished the seafood appitzer that goes for a samll fortune , the steaks are on their way out , and the waitress from Alaska , who is simply breath -taking , is pouring the red wine with a big smile on her face ,asking for the winner of saturday's gotham , and she pleads come on guys everyone has to eat once and a while  | 
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|   only the ones that bet today. But he needs to develop a code or audible IMO. 
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|   The only way a win parlay is  a true reflection of the pay out is if you make a straight p3 or pk4 bet. Most pk3s and 4s are wheels and every time you hit a win bet the winnings have to be split up between the horses in the next leg. Comparing the payoffs to a win parlay isnot very objective. If you had a winning ticket on any of these races . The true $2 pay out caan be calculated but a straight $2 parlay is not accurate. | 
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 Ummmm......no. 
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 When I was at Toga, I was messing around with the win parlay cards and unless I am mistaken, that was exactly how it was done. | 
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