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Old 02-23-2009, 07:11 PM
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I thought the really interesting thing is that none of the pictures were of US horses and they stressed that they ship throughout the world. But arent all the other countries drug free? LOL.
i only read the main page, didn't look at the rest of the site...was hoping you'd look at it. but that is kind of funny, isn't it?
anyway, are folks using horse growth hormone? would it help horses the way they think hgh has helped folks like bonds?
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:20 PM
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i only read the main page, didn't look at the rest of the site...was hoping you'd look at it. but that is kind of funny, isn't it?
anyway, are folks using horse growth hormone? would it help horses the way they think hgh has helped folks like bonds?
No one needed to use anything like that until they banned anabolics. i'm sure that some are trying though it may not have even work on equines very well. i honestly dont know.

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Old 02-23-2009, 07:32 PM
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I need some help here bout that site.

I found nothing about Horse Growth Hormone.
It they have actually produced it how?
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:45 PM
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I need some help here bout that site.

I found nothing about Horse Growth Hormone.
It they have actually produced it how?
seems like one of their products is a sort of precurser to GH
a chemical with the acronym OAK
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It contains Ornithine alphaketoglutarate (OAK), L-Arginine, Glycine and aspartates. This drug kind of wraps up everything in pre racing a horse. OAK stimulates Growth Hormone and Insulin release, for a potent tissue building effect. Trials have demonstrated that OAK effectively reduces muscle loss after surgery and trauma, and increases the synthesis of muscle protein. OAK also acts as an ammonia scavenger within the body, and provides the body with glutamine (the most abundant free amino acid in muscle tissue). Arginine stimulates the release of growth hormone, and is a potent stimulus to Insulin release. Arginine is the end product of OAK breakdown in the body, so OAK adds to the arginine pool available for growth hormone release.
the site might not be the 1st place a world class cheating trainer wants to look, for a number of reasons including getting the "good stuff" , but is still alarming

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Old 02-23-2009, 07:52 PM
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I need some help here bout that site.

I found nothing about Horse Growth Hormone.
It they have actually produced it how?
i don't know what all they're talking about-it's just a site that came up when i did the search....
but another result was about a cyclist who was found with horse growth hormone-he had to have gotten it somewhere. it's obviously out there. not sure how prevalent it is.
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Old 02-23-2009, 08:04 PM
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i don't know what all they're talking about-it's just a site that came up when i did the search....
but another result was about a cyclist who was found with horse growth hormone-he had to have gotten it somewhere. it's obviously out there. not sure how prevalent it is.
Just asking basically because Human Growth Hormone was genetically engineered for pituitary dwarfs to help with the growth of long bones during later childhood/puberty. It was not easy to manufacture but now it is easier.
If someone has found the Horse Growth Hormone gene and has produced the stuff... that would be interesting to know.
It probably is not a lot diff. from Human Growth hormone. But the cyclist to put that into his body... thats is just flat out dumb. He could have had a very bad reaction to it if it really is produced for or in a horse.

Anyways I read fischer and he cleared it up. The chemical in question supposedly helps with the release of Horse growth Hormone. That site looks bogus to me. Probably sell you saline labeled super horse serum.
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:42 AM
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Just asking basically because Human Growth Hormone was genetically engineered for pituitary dwarfs to help with the growth of long bones during later childhood/puberty. It was not easy to manufacture but now it is easier.
If someone has found the Horse Growth Hormone gene and has produced the stuff... that would be interesting to know.
It probably is not a lot diff. from Human Growth hormone. But the cyclist to put that into his body... thats is just flat out dumb. He could have had a very bad reaction to it if it really is produced for or in a horse.

Anyways I read fischer and he cleared it up. The chemical in question supposedly helps with the release of Horse growth Hormone. That site looks bogus to me. Probably sell you saline labeled super horse serum.
the site is totally bogus. They dont even have real products that you can buy. But you can buy something called Testerr for $12,225. Sounds like a great deal.
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Old 02-23-2009, 08:53 PM
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Why the switch to prose?
Its just sentence length across the page.
I have trouble reading all the way across.
My writing is so pitiful it really does not matter.
I probably just started typing faster and it
got away from me.

I will try to obey my boundaries and limitations.
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:07 PM
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No one needed to use anything like that until they banned anabolics. i'm sure that some are trying though it may not have even work on equines very well. i honestly dont know.

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Man isn't that the truth
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:11 PM
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I went and read the article from top to Bottom and if I had to pre race one and follow those guidelines I think I would get out of racing and get a job at "Chucky Cheeses" making pizza.
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:13 PM
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I went and read the article from top to Bottom and if I had to pre race one and follow those guidelines I think I would get out of racing and get a job at "Chucky Cheeses" making pizza.
You can get a little crosseyed reading that thing. A lot of those secret methods arent really a secret and dont really work that well. Hell most of those preraces are available over the counter.
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