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Old 02-06-2009, 09:59 PM
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At any rate, I think showing horses wiping out, and thus, showing how perilous and exciting the life of a jockey can be will only assure more people tuning in to see the show. And whether people are interested or disgusted by what they see, their thoughts will be on it, and at least the game will be promoted. There is no such thing as bad publicity. Besides, people want to see that sort of thing anyway. NASCAR has done an amazing job over the years getting people to watch and become fans with the promise that there will be crashes. .

Yeah people love seeing athletes/animals break down ,suffer and die on the track. I remeber how ecstatic everyone was when Earnhardt died at the end of the Daytona 500. In fact I think Nascar tried to promte the sport that year by running ad with the slogan "Come see who dies this week".
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:14 PM
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Yeah people love seeing athletes/animals break down ,suffer and die on the track. I remeber how ecstatic everyone was when Earnhardt died at the end of the Daytona 500. In fact I think Nascar tried to promte the sport that year by running ad with the slogan "Come see who dies this week".
To be honest, I kinda agree with Dean. Unfortuntely the O's and Ah's come when someone falls. I watched the last half hour and it wasn't like they were showing a horse in distress or focusing on a dangling limb

For what it is worth, I liked the show, it is pointed towards the MTV Real World crowd, which I liked years ago.
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:22 PM
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How lovely they decided to follow "Jockeys" with the 'uh oh is anybody gonna die' horse racing spill/crash show. If nobody ends up paralyzed I'll be stunned. Some steeplechase jockey's about to get pitched 20 feet in the air.
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:47 PM
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To be honest, I kinda agree with Dean. Unfortuntely the O's and Ah's come when someone falls. I watched the last half hour and it wasn't like they were showing a horse in distress or focusing on a dangling limb

For what it is worth, I liked the show, it is pointed towards the MTV Real World crowd, which I liked years ago.
Usually when bad things happen, the end result is not good. The point that Dean was making (or at least the way I interpreted it) was that people want/expect spills and breakdowns in horse racing the way they expect/want crashes at Nascar events. Not only should expect that, but the sport should promote it. I agree with Andy, I would rather that those people not become fans of the sport. We do not need that type of fan base.
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Usually when bad things happen, the end result is not good. The point that Dean was making (or at least the way I interpreted it) was that people want/expect spills and breakdowns in horse racing the way they expect/want crashes at Nascar events. Not only should expect that, but the sport should promote it. I agree with Andy, I would rather that those people not become fans of the sport. We do not need that type of fan base.

I am totally unaware of anyone that goes to a horse race in hopes of seeing a breakdown. Never seen anyone get excited - only upset. My friends look away on the bad ones they don't want to watch.

so yes, I don't want them as a "fan" of the sport either.

as for Jockey.. eh, it was ok. I had to leave didn't see if Jon Court made an appearance or not but I was encouraged to see that my favorite jockey made it on the show.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:07 PM
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Usually when bad things happen, the end result is not good. The point that Dean was making (or at least the way I interpreted it) was that people want/expect spills and breakdowns in horse racing the way they expect/want crashes at Nascar events. Not only should expect that, but the sport should promote it. I agree with Andy, I would rather that those people not become fans of the sport. We do not need that type of fan base.
Yeah, I agree that the type of people they're trying to attract aren't the ones that don't get that worked up over a horse breaking down. I frankly would rather they get a new hobby if they look at the horses with that kind of detachment. You gotta feel more than 'oh well, there goes another one' when they get hurt. That's not the same as 'stiff upper lip' realism about injuries happening. If they root for it, that's just sick.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:16 PM
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I saw my first pair of saggy boobies at DOver Downs for a Nascar event. I think Ricky Rudd or Jeff GOrdon won that day. (and me finding out how that piece of flesh works)

and this jockey show's time slot would be better off used to actually try to gather fans for the sport.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:21 PM
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I watched the show thought it was pretty good. Interesting to hear how nervous mike smith was about riding zenyatta guess it is tough to ride a horse that is a big fav. AS for the breakdowns i dont remember anyone saying that any of the horses they showed were euthanised (sp) correct me if im wrong as i thought most of the horses got up. I agree as breakdowns are easily the toughest thing about the sport.
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NASCAR - I think we only have to look at Sportsman's Park and see what combining NASCAR and horseracing has done for the sport
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