NFL overtime rule

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Yes, at that point it would revert to Sudden Death

I think the whole problem with a situation like this is, it gives the team who gets the ball second an advantage. If team A gets in a 4th and short on the cusp of FG range they might punt to play the field position game. 4th downs will be a bit sketchy. Team B will have sort of a free look on the first possesion. If the game is tied, they would play it normally. If they are down then 4th down becomes an automatic go for it because the game is on the line, in a situation where they would usually punt. I feel that it gives Team be and advantage on the 1st possesion.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I think the whole problem with a situation like this is, it gives the team who gets the ball second an advantage. If team A gets in a 4th and short on the cusp of FG range they might punt to play the field position game. 4th downs will be a bit sketchy. Team B will have sort of a free look on the first possesion. If the game is tied, they would play it normally. If they are down then 4th down becomes an automatic go for it because the game is on the line, in a situation where they would usually punt. I feel that it gives Team be and advantage on the 1st possesion.

So why not a full quarter?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

So why not a full quarter?

My stance from the beginning is that there is nothing wrong with the current system. I truely believe that if it was reversed and Peyton Manning got the ball 1st and marched the Colts to victory that we aren't even having this conversation. But since the MVP got left on the sideline everyone is in an uproar about an injustice. The stats prove that the recieving team doesn't have a statistical advantage. Defense is a huge part of the game and last time I checked they could score too. The only thing I would agree to is letting the team getting the ball 1st start at the 20 this way there is no huge field position adavntage there. But then again Special Teams are important too and could pin teams in deep. Like I said, there's nothing wrong so don't fix it.

As far as your question, what is the solution if it's still tied after ot?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

As far as your question, what is the solution if it's still tied after ot?

ask McNabb????

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

My stance from the beginning is that there is nothing wrong with the current system. I truely believe that if it was reversed and Peyton Manning got the ball 1st and marched the Colts to victory that we aren't even having this conversation. But since the MVP got left on the sideline everyone is in an uproar about an injustice. The stats prove that the recieving team doesn't have a statistical advantage. Defense is a huge part of the game and last time I checked they could score too. The only thing I would agree to is letting the team getting the ball 1st start at the 20 this way there is no huge field position adavntage there. But then again Special Teams are important too and could pin teams in deep. Like I said, there's nothing wrong so don't fix it.

As far as your question, what is the solution if it's still tied after ot?

Play another one.

I guess im different but i dont mind watching a good game go into overtime. I would have enjoyed watching Peyton attempt to take his team down to tie the game against SD or potentially win with a two point conversion.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

My stance from the beginning is that there is nothing wrong with the current system. I truely believe that if it was reversed and Peyton Manning got the ball 1st and marched the Colts to victory that we aren't even having this conversation. But since the MVP got left on the sideline everyone is in an uproar about an injustice.

But what of paw Matty Cassel getting rawbbed by his aging defense's inability to stop an even more aging quarterback on 3rd and 15?! The Jets did nawt win that game fayuh and squayah!!! It was the coin toss that completed those four thousand consecutive passes to Dustin Keller, not the Jets!

[horseofcourse]

They must have changed the rules since 1986. I could have sworn the Browns won the OT coin flip in the '86 AFC championship against the Broncos yet still didn't play in the Super Bowl. In what year did they change the rules to whomever wins the coin flip wins in overtime??

It's a crock. You're all crazy wanting to change the rules. It is 1 million times better than the college overtime as it is.

I would never change NFL overtime. It's perfect. If you win the coin flip go score. If you lose the coin flip play defense and prevernt a score. It's football. College is nonsense starting off in field goal range...then the mandatory 2 point conversion rule is pathetic starting the 3rd overtime.

[Danzig]

using that logic, horseofcourse, keeneland never had a bias either. of course it's not accurate to say that the coin flip winner always wins-but it's definitely tilted in that direction. all you have to do is get in field goal range to win, which is why many want both teams to have a shot at the ball in overtime. i don't think it's a crazy suggestion.

[Danzig]

they could always use hockey rules. you have a five minute sudden death overtime( of course football would need more than that i'd imagine), followed by a shoot out. for the shoot out, set the teams kickers up at the forty, and see who makes more field goals out of 3 attempts. if it's still tied, back to another overtime. and their OT's are sudden death.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they could always use hockey rules. you have a five minute sudden death overtime( of course football would need more than that i'd imagine), followed by a shoot out. for the shoot out, set the teams kickers up at the forty, and see who makes more field goals out of 3 attempts. if it's still tied, back to another overtime. and their OT's are sudden death.

That's crazy, besides there is no shootout in playoff hockey. They will play all night if they have too. You can't compare hockey to football, it's like comparing apples to oranges.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

That's crazy, besides there is no shootout in playoff hockey. They will play all night if they have too. You can't compare hockey to football, it's like comparing apples to oranges.

to be honest, other than regular season, i don't see why they can't end in a tie-but i can't see why baseball can't end in a tie either.

and it was really meant tongue in cheek...

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Danzig

to be honest, other than regular season, i don't see why they can't end in a tie-but i can't see why baseball can't end in a tie either.

and it was really meant tongue in cheek...

Fair enough Dani, that's why I didn't post the first thing that came into my mind when I read the post. I thought there was a good chance at it being an off the cuff mark.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I think the whole problem with a situation like this is, it gives the team who gets the ball second an advantage. If team A gets in a 4th and short on the cusp of FG range they might punt to play the field position game. 4th downs will be a bit sketchy. Team B will have sort of a free look on the first possesion. If the game is tied, they would play it normally. If they are down then 4th down becomes an automatic go for it because the game is on the line, in a situation where they would usually punt. I feel that it gives Team be and advantage on the 1st possesion.

That's kind of my point..it would introduce some more strategy, especially on what to do if you win the flip.

Look...not saying it's perfect but I don't like the randomness of a coin flip and the gimmickieness (?) of how it's settled in college, so...this is what I ended up with.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by GBBob

That's kind of my point..it would introduce some more strategy, especially on what to do if you win the flip.

Look...not saying it's perfect but I don't like the randomness of a coin flip and the gimmickieness (?) of how it's settled in college, so...this is what I ended up with.

I don't think there is any strategy there. Everyone would kick off, because you can't lose if you let the other team score, plus you would have a free look at 4th down. Just like everyone takes the ball when they win the flip now, everyone would be kicking off under that system.