Islam and the weapon of deception

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'm imagining that, like me, there are a couple of other people who aren't posting anything in here because Hossy is taking words right out of my mouth and doing a perfectly fine job picking apart a thread that started with such a ludicrous premise under the guise of 'oh look at this tidbit i just found, figured i'd share.'

Hossy called bull$hit, just like any other thinking person would have.

It's your world, boys! I personally expected as much from you two deep thinkers, but i disagree with you that you speak for anyone but yourselves.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It's your world, boys! I personally expected as much from you two deep thinkers, but i disagree with you that you speak for anyone but yourselves.

That's right, I forgot that disagreeing with the same, usual dogmatic tripe is verboten.

What is funny that you would make a backhanded, sarcastic comment about me or Hossy being a "deep thinker," this coming from the guy whose "sources" are either $hitty op-eds, fearmongering right-wing sites and/or World Net Daily, the last bastion of honest reporting.

You're the last person here who should accuse anyone else of being incapable of having an original thought....

Oh well. I'm caught up now.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

That's right, I forgot that disagreeing with the same, usual dogmatic tripe is verboten.

What is funny that you would make a backhanded, sarcastic comment about me or Hossy being a "deep thinker," this coming from the guy whose "sources" are either $hitty op-eds, fearmongering right-wing sites and/or World Net Daily, the last bastion of honest reporting.

You're the last person here who should accuse anyone else of being incapable of having an original thought....

Oh well. I'm caught up now.

you don't know **** about me...just keep your head in the sand...fine by me.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

you don't know **** about me...just keep your head in the sand...fine by me.

You're right, I don't...which is why I only have what you post here to go on, so you've only got yourself to blame for the fact that this is all such a howler.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

There it is. Anyone that doesn't walk around afraid of people has their head in the sand.

Dimmy, the Muslims that aren't violent, what should we do about them? Be afraid? How many violent Christians, Jews, etc are there walking around this country right now? What are you so afraid of?

Posted without comment.

In lieu of the thread I was going to start called "Christianity and the weapon of youth pastors fuc|<ing kids."

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Posted without comment.

In lieu of the thread I was going to start called "Christianity and the weapon of youth pastors fuc|<ing kids."

Gee,Brian...if you'd like to talk about predators here feel free to do so. Apples and oranges on current topic.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

There it is. Anyone that doesn't walk around afraid of people has their head in the sand.

Dimmy, the Muslims that aren't violent, what should we do about them? Be afraid? How many violent Christians, Jews, etc are there walking around this country right now? What are you so afraid of?

OK..deep thinker: explain the constant attacks by Muslim terrorists on countries like Norway,England,France,Spain. Do you people even read a newspaper past the sports page? I'm not afraid for myself, just those who are ill-prepared to deal with those same attacks in their hometowns? If you think that's fear-mongering, then so be it

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So you're afraid for me? That's nice. How should i prepare myself for these incoming attacks? Load up on bottled water and tuna fish?

As Brian put it, the absolute last person on this site who should be calling anyone a deep thinker sarcastically is you. Doesn't this ever get old for you?

Answer the question....what about those countries? Instead of an intelligent answer, you vomit again. Notice a pattern there! What you think
of me is like a featherweight on my back. Carry on

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Answer the question....what about those countries? Instead of an intelligent answer, you vomit again. Notice a pattern there! What you think
of me is like a featherweight on my back. Carry on

criminals should be handled as they always have been. open season on all muslims because of the actions of a few shouldn't be called for.


this is hilarious, you're after them for their beliefs, while complaining they're after you for yours.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

criminals should be handled as they always have been. open season on all muslims because of the actions of a few shouldn't be called for.


this is hilarious, you're after them for their beliefs, while complaining they're after you for yours.

Feel free to presume what I meant by the thread. Actually I'm kinda used to it by now. If the criminals started doing suicide bombings in our churches or
volunteering to drive school buses, you wouldn't be alarmed. Whateva...

used to be I could get a decent response from you,Ziggy.....now you're just
one of the guys, I guess

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You want me to explain why crazy terrorists attack countries? because they are crazy Dimmy.

Now answer mine, how should i prepare for these attacks? Since you have clearly taken A LOT of time to think about it, what should i do?

It was an info thread. I saw it and posted the thread, that's it.

Personally..I'd just as soon you hang your ass out of a building with a "hit me"
sign!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It's your world, boys! I personally expected as much from you two deep thinkers, but i disagree with you that you speak for anyone but yourselves.

I just wanted to take this opportunity to point out one more thing that you are wrong about in this thread.
The entire premise for this thread is obvioulsy completely nonsensical, but given that Hossy, Spencer, and now Danzig, have done a fine job of taking up the banner of rational thought against you, we don't ALL really need to pile on you.
So, you can rest assured that you are completely wrong in your statement here. They are speaking for more than just themselves.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I just wanted to take this opportunity to point out one more thing that you are wrong about in this thread.
The entire premise for this thread is obvioulsy completely nonsensical, but given that Hossy, Spencer, and now Danzig, have done a fine job of taking up the banner of rational thought against you, we don't ALL really need to pile on you.
So, you can rest assured that you are completely wrong in your statement here. They are speaking for more than just themselves.

Well, I agree very rarely with TIMM, or HONU. On this subject, they happen to be correct. For example, Zig talks about a Christian she knows that uses the "N" word. He's not doing that for religious reasons. He's not doing that in an effort to follow the teachings of his prophet. He's doing it because he's a racist. His prophet encourages him to not follow his racist views. Right? If not for Christianity, he may very well have used violence against races he doesn't like. Now, compare this to the Muslims that do things we don't agree with. Are they following their prophet's teachings when they blow stuff up, and kill people? Yes, they are following his teachings. For some reason people refuse to believe that. They don't do these acts despite what their prophet says. They do it directly because of what their prophet said. You can say I blanket people all you want, but this is the prophet of their religion. Not some side figure that they can take or leave. If you're a Muslim, then you have a killer for a prophet. He was violent. His teachings are violent. We may get lucky, and some Muslims may refuse to follow their prophet's teachings. Fact is, these terrorists are not disobeying their prophet when they kill innocent people that aren't fellow Muslims. When Christians do these bad things you described, they aren't doing it to satisfy their prophet. It's not done for religious reasons. That's simply not the case when Muslims kill innocent people. I understand the KUM-BA-YA stuff on here, but it's based on ignorance of Islam. Zig, that prophet taught them to convert you to Islam. If you refuse, he taught them to kill you. Enough with the paddy-cake bullsht. If someone chooses to follow that Prophet, then they choose to follow a very violent individual. Read what he said. Who would follow that guy? How can you call yourself peace-loving when your prophet taught you to kill non-believers? How can you have respect for women when your prophet tells you to treat them as your farm animals are treated? Sorry, I don't get that. Your views on this subject are a deep stretch. Ours are based on unfortunate facts that you refuse to accept.

[Honu]

Scuds , c'mere Ima kiss you

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, I agree very rarely with TIMM, or HONU. On this subject, they happen to be correct. For example, Zig talks about a Christian she knows that uses the "N" word. He's not doing that for religious reasons. He's not doing that in an effort to follow the teachings of his prophet. He's doing it because he's a racist. His prophet encourages him to not follow his racist views. Right? If not for Christianity, he may very well have used violence against races he doesn't like. Now, compare this to the Muslims that do things we don't agree with. Are they following their prophet's teachings when they blow stuff up, and kill people? Yes, they are following his teachings. For some reason people refuse to believe that. They don't do these acts despite what their prophet says. They do it directly because of what their prophet said. You can say I blanket people all you want, but this is the prophet of their religion. Not some side figure that they can take or leave. If you're a Muslim, then you have a killer for a prophet. He was violent. His teachings are violent. We may get lucky, and some Muslims may refuse to follow their prophet's teachings. Fact is, these terrorists are not disobeying their prophet when they kill innocent people that aren't fellow Muslims. When Christians do these bad things you described, they aren't doing it to satisfy their prophet. It's not done for religious reasons. That's simply not the case when Muslims kill innocent people. I understand the KUM-BA-YA stuff on here, but it's based on ignorance of Islam. Zig, that prophet taught them to convert you to Islam. If you refuse, he taught them to kill you. Enough with the paddy-cake bullsht. If someone chooses to follow that Prophet, then they choose to follow a very violent individual. Read what he said. Who would follow that guy? How can you call yourself peace-loving when your prophet taught you to kill non-believers? How can you have respect for women when your prophet tells you to treat them as your farm animals are treated? Sorry, I don't get that. Your views on this subject are a deep stretch. Ours are based on unfortunate facts that you refuse to accept.

best scuds post evah!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, I agree very rarely with TIMM, or HONU. On this subject, they happen to be correct. For example, Zig talks about a Christian she knows that uses the "N" word. He's not doing that for religious reasons. He's not doing that in an effort to follow the teachings of his prophet. He's doing it because he's a racist. His prophet encourages him to not follow his racist views. Right? If not for Christianity, he may very well have used violence against races he doesn't like. Now, compare this to the Muslims that do things we don't agree with. Are they following their prophet's teachings when they blow stuff up, and kill people? Yes, they are following his teachings. For some reason people refuse to believe that. They don't do these acts despite what their prophet says. They do it directly because of what their prophet said. You can say I blanket people all you want, but this is the prophet of their religion. Not some side figure that they can take or leave. If you're a Muslim, then you have a killer for a prophet. He was violent. His teachings are violent. We may get lucky, and some Muslims may refuse to follow their prophet's teachings. Fact is, these terrorists are not disobeying their prophet when they kill innocent people that aren't fellow Muslims. When Christians do these bad things you described, they aren't doing it to satisfy their prophet. It's not done for religious reasons. That's simply not the case when Muslims kill innocent people. I understand the KUM-BA-YA stuff on here, but it's based on ignorance of Islam. Zig, that prophet taught them to convert you to Islam. If you refuse, he taught them to kill you. Enough with the paddy-cake bullsht. If someone chooses to follow that Prophet, then they choose to follow a very violent individual. Read what he said. Who would follow that guy? How can you call yourself peace-loving when your prophet taught you to kill non-believers? How can you have respect for women when your prophet tells you to treat them as your farm animals are treated? Sorry, I don't get that. Your views on this subject are a deep stretch. Ours are based on unfortunate facts that you refuse to accept.

That is simply not true.
There certainly are Christian groups (ever heard of the Phineas Priesthood, for example?) that conduct bombings in the name of Christianity. They aren't just Christians who happen to be terrorists, their terrorism is based on their religious beliefs.
They believe that - based on the bible - their "god" wants them to kill homosexuals, atheists, jews, etc.
Their terrorism is conducted explicitly to please their deity.

[timmgirvan]

^^^^^^^^
out of touch with reality!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

^^^^^^^^
out of touch with reality!

Are you suggesting that Christian terrorist groups like the Phineas Priesthood have never actually existed?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Are you suggesting that Christian terrorist groups like the Phineas Priesthood have never actually existed?

I don't know of them, but I've been out of Catholicism for 40 yrs.
Give me a link if you can.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

^^^^^^^^
out of touch with reality!

Come on..are you saying this isn't true?