Great speech by Hillary

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

In the following quote:

I think this country is f.ucked either way. It really doesn't matter who is in office.

you're saying it does not matter who is in office. The same"fkd" result will be the outcome. You're saying right here that elections don't matter. If a Democrat had been in office ,then Scalia wouldn't have been nominated. You then say that the issues the Supreme Court decides (such as civil rights, abortion , civil liberties etc.) aren't as important as other issues. That's only because you take them for granite. Get enough Conservatives on the Court, and see how long you have civil liberties. It won't be for long. They would be like Turkey(block any internet sites they deem offensive...like about 1000...including YOUTUBE ETC.) They'd outlaw abortion etc. Actually I am o.k. with that, but many people aren't. If HEALTH CARE is an important issue to you then how can you say it doesn't matter who is the President? One party wants to do something about healthcare, and the other wants to do very little(other than healthcare savings accounts.) Again, the 2 people running for President aren't close on their views about healthcare. I would think it would matter a great deal which one is elected.

Not entirely true. I also take them for platinum, gold, and silver.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

That's called an eggcorn.

acorn= looks like could be a combo of corn and an egg.

granite= cheap rock

take something for granite=take something for cheap rock

take something for granted= doesn't really paint a picture, but people prefer this one...........Slowly it will change to the alternate form. The eggcorn will become the accepted.

Characteristic of the eggcorn is that the new phrase makes sense on some level ('old-timer's disease' for 'Alzheimer's disease').

[timmgirvan]

so we've found your achilles heel...word games! BTW, youtube also yanks conservative stuff from its' site,but there's no lack of crappy music on there!
You get what you pay for,huh? You're always screaming about civil rights,but you don't bring any personal examples to the table. If you think that the Democratic "braintrust" has the answer for healthcare,then you are mistaken! They will bankrupt this country by taxing the very things that make cash move in this country. Bubba Clinton cooked the books and floated the 10bil surplus,but nobody bothered to read the fine print! He gutted the Defense and Intelligence budgets,let half the countrys' secrets flee to China and generally allowed Al Queda to flourish! Yeah... we need more of that!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

so we've found your achilles heel...word games! BTW, youtube also yanks conservative stuff from its' site,but there's no lack of crappy music on there!
You get what you pay for,huh? You're always screaming about civil rights,but you don't bring any personal examples to the table. If you think that the Democratic "braintrust" has the answer for healthcare,then you are mistaken! They will bankrupt this country by taxing the very things that make cash move in this country. Bubba Clinton cooked the books and floated the 10bil surplus,but nobody bothered to read the fine print! He gutted the Defense and Intelligence budgets,let half the countrys' secrets flee to China and generally allowed Al Queda to flourish! Yeah... we need more of that!

Amen brother. Everyone makes Bill Clinton to be this great president. He didnt do **** and he didn't do anything about this Al Queda problem eventhough they bombed the WTC (the first time), the US Embassy in Kenya, USS Cole.. and numerous other attacks around the world. Clinton was really nothing special. at all.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Yeah, anyone would look like the greatest president of all-time if they held office in between the terms of the two corrupt imbeciles who came before and after Clinton.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How does Clinton rank compared to both Dubya and his father?

It's like ranking Special Olympic track and field athletes.

[Danzig]

since lyndon johnson, we've had ford, carter, reagan, bush, clinton, bush. four reps, two dems. but in that time, has the court been 'stacked'? no, and not with more reps in office in the last 30-odd years. altho the president gets to nominate a justice, they still have to get approved. there can't be a stacking of the supreme court, regardless of who the chief executive is, because he isn't the only one with any say in the matter.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Amen brother. Everyone makes Bill Clinton to be this great president. He didnt do **** and he didn't do anything about this Al Queda problem eventhough they bombed the WTC (the first time), the US Embassy in Kenya, USS Cole.. and numerous other attacks around the world. Clinton was really nothing special. at all.

WELL, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR FOR THE A-HOLE IN THERE NOW. A LOT OF YOU DID, and you got a lot of fatherless children to show for it. That's right. you, Girvan... Probably another 20,000 crippled up, and mamed. You couldn't do without him, and he has pissed away how much money in that pit? A trillion bucks? McCain was there backing that waste of lives n' money the whole way. For what? Now those people (who he says he is staying there to help) have demanded he set a a date to leave.........and Danzig, you're wrong about the Supreme Court. It's conservative now(as it was when they ended the 2000 election.) It was liberal leaning during ROE V. WADE. If you don't think the court can get heavily stacked, then just wait n' see what takes place if McCain gets elected. There are 2 Liberals that are aging. For sure 1 or both will retire or die soon. The senate can only get a slightly less radical extreme. They can't get rid of the extreme. Bush put his Conservatives on there. Notice that? It was up to him. Wasn't it? Yes. Throw another Conservative on there, and then see what happens. Gunna tip, and tip hard. Al Quaeda tore down those 2 buildings when this a-s-s was in charge. His people ignored information before it took place. Al Quaeda killed 4 thousand Americans, and Bush got another 4 thousand Americans(and counting) killed. Still didn't get Bin Laden. Conservatives are correct on immigration. Most every other country gives value to it's people's citizenship. Not this one. We de-value American Citizenship every time we ignore illegal immigration. Even when his party was right on that issue, this a-hole dragged his feet on it(same as McCain is doing.) War is sometimes necessary. It wasn't necessary this time. History will show he smoked 4k Americans for not a good enough reason. What ever his pathetic reason was, it wasn't good enough. If you voted for this a-s-s, then you gotta share some of that guilt.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

WELL, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR FOR THE A-HOLE IN THERE NOW. A LOT OF YOU DID, and you got a lot of fatherless children to show for it. That's right. you, Girvan... Probably another 20,000 crippled up, and mamed. You couldn't do without him, and he has pissed away how much money in that pit? A trillion bucks? McCain was there backing that waste of lives n' money the whole way. For what? Now those people (who he says he is staying there to help) have demanded he set a a date to leave.........and Danzig, you're wrong about the Supreme Court. It's conservative now(as it was when the ended the 2000 election.) It was liberal leaning during ROE V. WADE. If you don't think the court can get heavily stacked, then just wait n' see what takes place if McCain gets elected. There are 2 Liberals that are aging. For sure 1 or both will retire or die soon. The senate can only get a slightly less radical extreme. They can't get rid of the extreme. Bush put his Conservatives on there. Throw another one on there, and then see what happens. Gunna tip, and tip hard. Al Quaeda tore down those 2 buildings when this a-s-s was in charge. His people ignored information before it took place. Al Quaeda killed 4 thousand Americans, and Bush got another 4 thousand Americans(and counting) killed. Still didn't get Bin Laden. Conservatives are correct on immigration. Most every other country gives value to it's people's citizenship. Not this one. We de-value American Citizenship every time we ignore illegal immigration. Even when his party was right on that issue, this a-hole dragged his feet on it(same as McCain is doing.)

lol...what he said

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Anytime somebody wants to fall back on "both parties s-u-c-k," and "there's very little difference between them." Those who say "it doesn't matter who you vote for." Look back to that 2000 election. You think it didn't matter who won that? Let me tell ya that 4 thousand Americans died because of the way that election went. Simple as that. No, Gore wouldn't of got 4 thousand Americans killed for whatever payoff that Bush thinks was worth them having to die for. Americans did not vote for it in majority(Gore got 500k more American votes.) State majorities is what got this a-s-s in, and got those 4 thousand people killed. They died because of the power of states rights.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Anytime somebody wants to fall back on "both parties s-u-c-k," and "there's very little difference between them." Those who say "it doesn't matter who you vote for." Look back to that 2000 election. You think it didn't matter who won that? Let me tell ya that 4 thousand Americans died because of the way that election went. Simple as that. No, Gore wouldn't of got 4 thousand Americans killed for whatever payoff that Bush thinks was worth them having to die for. Americans did not vote for it in majority(Gore got 500k more American votes.) State majorities is what got this a-s-s in, and got those 4 thousand people killed. They died because of the power of states rights.

I don't believe Gore's sorry he lost. He's making millions off global warming. The president's salary is nothing compared to that.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

WELL, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR FOR THE A-HOLE IN THERE NOW. A LOT OF YOU DID, and you got a lot of fatherless children to show for it. That's right. you, Girvan... Probably another 20,000 crippled up, and mamed. You couldn't do without him, and he has pissed away how much money in that pit? A trillion bucks? McCain was there backing that waste of lives n' money the whole way. For what? Now those people (who he says he is staying there to help) have demanded he set a a date to leave.........and Danzig, you're wrong about the Supreme Court. It's conservative now(as it was when they ended the 2000 election.) It was liberal leaning during ROE V. WADE. If you don't think the court can get heavily stacked, then just wait n' see what takes place if McCain gets elected. There are 2 Liberals that are aging. For sure 1 or both will retire or die soon. The senate can only get a slightly less radical extreme. They can't get rid of the extreme. Bush put his Conservatives on there. Notice that? It was up to him. Wasn't it? Yes. Throw another Conservative on there, and then see what happens. Gunna tip, and tip hard. Al Quaeda tore down those 2 buildings when this a-s-s was in charge. His people ignored information before it took place. Al Quaeda killed 4 thousand Americans, and Bush got another 4 thousand Americans(and counting) killed. Still didn't get Bin Laden. Conservatives are correct on immigration. Most every other country gives value to it's people's citizenship. Not this one. We de-value American Citizenship every time we ignore illegal immigration. Even when his party was right on that issue, this a-hole dragged his feet on it(same as McCain is doing.) War is sometimes necessary. It wasn't necessary this time. History will show he smoked 4k Americans for not a good enough reason. What ever his pathetic reason was, it wasn't good enough. If you voted for this a-s-s, then you gotta share some of that guilt.

but i've been hearing this 'doomsday and gloom' prophecy for years, and it hasn't happened. i dont' see roe v wade ever being overturned, for what it's worth, i don't want it to be. i'm also liberal leaning in that i don't think only heterosexuals should be allowed to enjoy the benefits of marriage.
as for the towers, i think clinton bears a lot of that burden, as he had ample opportunity to get the very guy who lead the charge on that. he did nothing when the cole was hit, he did nothing when bin laden was offered to him. it is in that respect ( as well as others, including the sex scandals) in that BOTH parties are the same type. both pander to lobbyists ( just depends on what type company you are talking about as to who is in who's pocket), both think only their party has the answers. guess what, they don't. neither do i, and scuds, neither do you.
i appreciate some of what obama has to say, as well as some of mccains. i'd imagine most do. and i'd think that most are centrists, yet it is the far left/right who get all the press. but how many of us truly follow the whole party line? i don't, which is why i'm glad i live in a state in which you don't have to declare for one or the other party.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but i've been hearing this 'doomsday and gloom' prophecy for years, and it hasn't happened. i dont' see roe v wade ever being overturned, for what it's worth, i don't want it to be. i'm also liberal leaning in that i don't think only heterosexuals should be allowed to enjoy the benefits of marriage.
as for the towers, i think clinton bears a lot of that burden, as he had ample opportunity to get the very guy who lead the charge on that. he did nothing when the cole was hit, he did nothing when bin laden was offered to him. it is in that respect ( as well as others, including the sex scandals) in that BOTH parties are the same type. both pander to lobbyists ( just depends on what type company you are talking about as to who is in who's pocket), both think only their party has the answers. guess what, they don't. neither do i, and scuds, neither do you.
i appreciate some of what obama has to say, as well as some of mccains. i'd imagine most do. and i'd think that most are centrists, yet it is the far left/right who get all the press. but how many of us truly follow the whole party line? i don't, which is why i'm glad i live in a state in which you don't have to declare for one or the other party.

Well said.

On another note, someone from the democratic party should drag Jesse Jackson off of the screen.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but i've been hearing this 'doomsday and gloom' prophecy for years, and it hasn't happened.

I totally disagree with that. The majority of Americans have been against us staying in Iraq as the dead American count has gone from 1000 to 4000 etc. He lost control of both houses of Congress because of it, but he just kept pissin' away American lives. I guess Congress could of stop funding it, but he would of still found a way to stay there. It has happened. You just don't find 4k Americans dead to be as objectionable as some others do. I don't think it was a necessary thing at all. Just his waste of human life...If you are talking specifically about the Supreme Court, they(conservative members of the court) have the votes to do what they choose to do. Lets see what they do when they don't have a Presidential election involved. Like next year. We will see what they do.

Yes I agree 9/11 happened because of Bush. It only took 9 months to plan it. It wasn't like the previous administration had any idea who Osama was.

"Your party sucks more"! Rabble Rabble Rabble.

This country is doomed for failure with this retarded mentality. GO ahead and pick a side on the short bus.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yes I agree 9/11 happened because of Bush. It only took 9 months to plan it. It wasn't like the previous administration had any idea who Osama was.

"Your party sucks more"! Rabble Rabble Rabble.

This country is doomed for failure with this retarded mentality. GO ahead and pick a side on the short bus.

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