Obama/Biden

Originally Posted by Mike

Did anyone here believe Bush's justifications for invading Iraq?

Come on, stand up all ye fools

I did.
At the time.
Yes I did.

I believed there were WMD's.
I did not think we could actually make a mistake this bad.
When the, "Oh well, we got Saddam out anyways", started,
I wilted and confessed my stupidity.
My conclusion: Confession does not work for me.
I got taken for a ride.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I did.
At the time.
Yes I did.

I believed there were WMD's.
I did not think we could actually make a mistake this bad.
When the, "Oh well, we got Saddam out anyways", started,
I wilted and confessed my stupidity.
My conclusion: Confession does not work for me.
I got taken for a ride.

I thought your name was Pat, not Colin Powell

Originally Posted by GBBob

I thought your name was Pat, not Colin Powell

We were both out of the loop.
Unfortunately Gen. Powell held a slightly
more signficant position.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I did.
At the time.
Yes I did.

I believed there were WMD's.
I did not think we could actually make a mistake this bad.
When the, "Oh well, we got Saddam out anyways", started,
I wilted and confessed my stupidity.
My conclusion: Confession does not work for me.
I got taken for a ride.

amen.

i remember thinking, "these guys may not be telling me everything, but they're a lot smarter than me and there's no way we'd initiate a war for no good reason."

it's been a learning experience.

[Mike]

So honest, pgardn. Thank you

Listen, of course I make a lot of political judgement mistakes,too, it's hard to know what to believe from the information we're fed.

I'm very much left wing, so I'm not expecting much from either of these two parties controlled by special interest money.

I would probably enjoy spending limited time with McCain, maybe more so than Obama. Hell, I'd even enjoy spending time at home(1 of 7) with wife Cindy McCain, sipping wine and popping percocets with her on the couch, while Johnny was down at the casino

[Mike]

DruGs, ya got any photos of Cindy in your collection?

Originally Posted by Mike

Listen, of course I make a lot of political judgement mistakes,too, it's hard to know what to believe from the information we're fed.

Most of the press and the US Senate also believed there
were WMD's. I believe that GW believed there were WMD's.
We made a concerted effort to find them. We had all the
right units lined up for the search. Which might be part of the
reason we were so ill-prepared to help stabilize the country.

Why would we make such a big effort to find what was not there...
We screwed up. And as more has come to light it appears that
Cheney might have known and manipulated more than anyone which is scary.