Pyro returning Saturday

[hockey2315]

Pyro's just not very good. . . It sounds redundant - but what an awful race/field.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I agree - if he couldn't beat that field - he probably has cancer or aids or something like that.

I was shocked that he paid 9/5 though. Recapturetheglory is still elidigible for N2X races and he was uncontested on the lead in a paceless ILL Derby over a gold rail. I know there wasn't much pace in this race - but I figured Pyro's repute - diminished as it has been - would push him to odds on.

From glancing at the final times - assuming they don't split a variant -his Beyer will come back 2 or 3 points less than Curlin's and 7 points more than Hystericalady's.

However, something tells me you might see them split the 8.5 and 9f races.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Pyro's just not very good. . . It sounds redundant - but what an awful race/field.

He's just terrible. I mean, if he were a handicapper, he'd probably be going on and on about horses like Harlem Rocker and Undbridled's Heart. Now, THOSE are VERY GOOD horses.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

He's just terrible. I mean, if he were a handicapper, he'd probably be going on and on about horses like Harlem Rocker and Undbridled's Heart. Now, THOSE are VERY GOOD horses.

They've both run more impressive races than Pyro in my opinion. . .

[Danzig]

and i thought pyros races earlier this year were pretty good-albeit not terribly fast. but no one has been all year. at least pyro put several good ones together, rather than a one and done. but we'll see how Unbridleds heart and harlem do next out....

as an aside....i found it interesting that every horse who has come back from the peter pan has won next out-they mentioned it on hrtv.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Danzig

as an aside....i found it interesting that every horse who has come back from the peter pan has won next out-they mentioned it on hrtv.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. . .

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I'm pretty sure that's not true. . .

dunno, didn't go fact-check it, but that's what stevens and pincay said. of course, doesn't mean it's true either!

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Danzig

dunno, didn't go fact-check it, but that's what stevens and pincay said. of course, doesn't mean it's true either!

Ready's Echo (3rd in the Peter Pan) didn't win next out unless I'm forgetting something. . . and the winner obviously hasn't run again yet. That leaves Golden Spikes and Mint Lane and maybe some other also rans. . .

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Danzig

dunno, didn't go fact-check it, but that's what stevens and pincay said. of course, doesn't mean it's true either!

Ready's Echo was 3rd in the Belmont. Spark Candle got beat bad in the Hill Prince. Mint Lane won yesterday. Tomcito and Casino Drive haven't started again. Not sure about Cosmic or anything else from there.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

They've both run more impressive races than Pyro in my opinion. . .

Well, they more IMPRESSIVELY BOMBED next out is probably more accurate.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Well, they more IMPRESSIVELY BOMBED next out is probably more accurate.

Just like Pyro did in the Bluegrass and Derby, right? Look - obviously Pyro's done more from an accomplishment standpoint than Harlem Rocker and definitely more than U's Heart who may just not be that good. And he was my second choice in the Derby. . . But, at least the other two (maybe just HR) have a chance to be very good - unlike Pyro - who clearly has a ceiling at this point (somewhere around a 95 beyer).