The Gods have finally spoken...

[DogsUp]

Well congrats to Nick Zito and Da Tara.

[wac]

Man i cannot begin to say how happy i am right now!!!! i have been on here many times talking about how much i dislike the owners and trainer of this horse and feel so good right now. The holy grail is protected for one more year. And what aobut 3 chimneys??? man they have got a huge s^it sanwich and now they have a horse with a sprinter pedigree that wont run again i read the interview in the drf and now i can only imagine what the owner of that farm has to say. you know they are creamed today. Man i love the karma gods. So sweet

[The Bid]

This can be a very humbling game, a little bit of humility goes a very long way.

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Originally Posted by DogsUp

Well congrats to Nick Zito and Da Tara.

Yeah ditto.

Very impressive.

[The Bid]

You are probably right Danzig, whether it be 15 days, or once every 30 it still doesnt do anything at all

Bailey is a fairly intelligent guy and hes been around the game his entire adult life. He knows the Winstrol does nothing

[Danzig]

i wouldn't say it does nothing. if it did nothing, then why give it?

[phystech]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i wouldn't say it does nothing. if it did nothing, then why give it?

Advice - learn more about it before you ask questions about it, unless those questions are asked because you don't understand it and want to learn more....

I won 6 races with a horse that wouldn't eat, and wouldn't hold any weight. Off the claim he was a fish - look at him from front and he disappeared. A little Equipoise and he ate up and looked for more - and started winning.

Did we win because of steroids? YES. Did the horse turn into Arnold? NO. But he put on some healthy weight and maintained it because....... he ATE.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by phystech

Advice - learn more about it before you ask questions about it, unless those questions are asked because you don't understand it and want to learn more....

I won 6 races with a horse that wouldn't eat, and wouldn't hold any weight. Off the claim he was a fish - look at him from front and he disappeared. A little Equipoise and he ate up and looked for more - and started winning.

Did we win because of steroids? YES. Did the horse turn into Arnold? NO. But he put on some healthy weight and maintained it because....... he ATE.

of course i asked because i wanted to know the answer. but logic would dictate that someone wouldn't go to the monthly expense of giving something if it truly did NOTHING. it does something-which i read a few minutes ago was keep a good appetite in a horse, etc. and you just said the same, so thanks for the answer.

Originally Posted by phystech

Advice - learn more about it before you ask questions about it, unless those questions are asked because you don't understand it and want to learn more....

I won 6 races with a horse that wouldn't eat, and wouldn't hold any weight. Off the claim he was a fish - look at him from front and he disappeared. A little Equipoise and he ate up and looked for more - and started winning.

Did we win because of steroids? YES. Did the horse turn into Arnold? NO. But he put on some healthy weight and maintained it because....... he ATE.

Lets be genuine. The medication is used for what you
said. That is part of what it is supposed to be used for.
But it is also used for other reasons because...
I thought it was also supposed to be used for Low blood
counts, for horses that had already shown some debilitation.
But some steroids are used on perfectly healthy horses.


As far as Dutrow people dont like him because humility is
something that many people admire. Dutrow has obviously
worked his butt off and been through hard times. But of
course the press is gonna pound on a guy as cocky as
he is. What the heck does one expect?

[phystech]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Lets be genuine. The medication is used for what you
said. That is part of what it is supposed to be used for.
But it is also used for other reasons because...
I thought it was also supposed to be used for Low blood
counts, for horses that had already shown some debilitation.
But some steroids are used on perfectly healthy horses.


As far as Dutrow people dont like him because humility is
something that many people admire. Dutrow has obviously
worked his butt off and been through hard times. But of
course the press is gonna pound on a guy as cocky as
he is. What the heck does one expect?

Let's be clear - I don't advocate the misuse of steroids - but as you point out, I do believe they serve a purpose when used properly.

Pertaining to Rick - I understand the opinion some have from watching 30 second snippets on TV. I can't claim to know this guy just because he caught my fastballs in high school 30 years ago. But I can tell you this - as teenagers, when he and his brothers liked something, they were all in. If it was a baseball team, a basketball team, or a 250 lb friend that entered disco dancing contests in 1975, Rick was all in. Whatever it was, he was all in.

That's the Rick I saw the last 5 weeks - all in.......

[The Bid]

Psytech, who says hes the fans choice? There are a lot of people who didnt care for Big Brown, the connections, the trainer, he was hardly a fan favorite with all the recent news on the connections. He was the betting choice, thats about it

It would do nothing to improve a horses performance outside eating. They give it because it keeps them eating, and its a mark up.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Psytech, who says hes the fans choice? There are a lot of people who didnt care for Big Brown, the connections, the trainer, he was hardly a fan favorite with all the recent news on the connections. He was the betting choice, thats about it

It would do nothing to improve a horses performance outside eating. They give it because it keeps them eating, and its a mark up.

just read this in a drf article:

"It's not that kind of situation," Bramlage said. "Anabolic steroids keep them eating and happy and aggressive, which he showed all week long."

[The Bid]

Hes takling about a Test, Deca, the Winstrol doesnt make them aggressive. It keeps them eating, it has nothing to do with their performance once they hit the racetrack. Probably increases the chances of bleeding which is why all American horses need lasix