Tomcito of Peru

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Caesar

If anyone has questions about Tomcito, I will be more than happy to answer.

I have one: where were you BEFORE the race?

P.S. Last moving a field that's been run off its feet chasing, gaining into the 2nd slowest quarter/eighth of the race, and STILL BACKING up the last split (the slowest 1/8th of the race) is not exactly an impressive performance.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I have one: where were you BEFORE the race?

P.S. Last moving a field that's been run off it's feet chasing, gaining into the 2nd slowest quarter/eighth of the race, and STILL BACKING up the last split (the slowest 1/8th of the race) is not exactly an impressive performance.

Where was I before the race? What does that have to do with anything?

In my opinion you need more than just a stop watch to analyze a race. Any professional horseman will tell u that. If u compare the times in Peru with the times at Gulfstream Park, is the same as comparing running on a sandy beach to running on concrete.

Before going deeper into analyzing the Florida Derby 2008 let me tell u about other bad breaks Tomcito endured. Jorge Chavez was told to work 3 1/2 furlongs days before the race and instead worked the horse 7 furlongs. Edgar Prado (Peruvian) who was supposed to have ridden Tomcito left for Dubai where he won both races and a total purse of $3 million.

Going back to the Florida Derby, pay close attention at Jorge Chavez actions from the start of the race. First instead of following the pace and slowly looking for the rail, pulls back the horse colliding with the 3 horse and runs into another horse who still does not allow him to get to the rail. Tomcito lost valuable ground to the rest of the pack. If I would have been the trainer, my first question to Chavez would be: "What the heck where u thinking off"? "Why did we work so hard to get speed on this horse if u is going to hold him back"?

Next step, I would get myself another jockey immediately.

Tomcito came from Peru after having raced in a 1 1/2 Miles race in a very deep track; this is just his first race in a Grade I in the United States. Don't forget that Tomcito style of racing is as a closer not a front runner like Big Brown.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Caesar

Where was I before the race? What does that have to do with anything?

It has something to do with what we term a REDBOARD here. I don't know how they do things in South America, Jose, but, HERE, we actually value opinions BEFORE the horse runs.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

It has something to do with what we term a REDBOARD here. I don't know how they do things in South America, Jose, but, HERE, we actually value opinions BEFORE the horse runs.

My opinions of the Florida Derby where posted on you tube 6 days before the race Pancho. I already got some people that at least had the courtesy to appreciate good info. You could have made yourself some cash.
So you know, I am not a Tomcito fan. I love to learn everything I can so that I can make some smart money decisions at the track. How much is Big Brown going to pay to win in Kentucky? $5.90? How much would a horse like Tomcito pay? $39.00?

If you know your racing, check how many favorites have won the Kentucky Derby and let me know how much money you would have lost.

In closing: I am not Spanish at all, I chose Caesar for Caesars Palace my favorite place to stay while in Vegas.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Caesar

My opinions of the Florida Derby where posted on you tube 6 days before the race Pancho. I already got some people that at least had the courtesy to appreciate good info. You could have made yourself some cash.
So you know, I am not a Tomcito fan. I love to learn everything I can so that I can make some smart money decisions at the track. How much is Big Brown going to pay to win in Kentucky? $5.90? How much would a horse like Tomcito pay? $39.00?

If you know your racing, check how many favorites have won the Kentucky Derby and let me know how much money you would have lost.

In closing: I am not Spanish at all, I chose Caesar for Caesars Palace my favorite place to stay while in Vegas.

Last thing I do, Jose, is listen to what people have to say on this or any other forum. LUCKILY, I actually have my own opinion and do quite nicely betting my own horses. AND, almost incredibly, I'm not the only one here who can make this claim. In fact, there are probably quite a few OTHER forum members with even better opinions than me. They're sitting back and taking it all in, while YOU feel the need to FLEX.

Where do all you HILLBILLIES come from?

I need a winner, Jose, help me out.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Last thing I do, Jose, is listen to what people have to say on this or any other forum. LUCKILY, I actually have my own opinion and do quite nicely betting my own horses. AND, almost incredibly, I'm not the only one here who can make this claim. In fact, there are probably quite a few OTHER forum members with even better opinions than me. They're sitting back and taking it all in, while YOU feel the need to FLEX.

Where do all you HILLBILLIES come from?

I need a winner, Jose, help me out.

Have you ever been to school Pancho?
You must've meant 'READ'.
Nobody wants to change your opinion.

Pancho says: "Do quite nicely betting my own horses". Nobody in this world does quite nicely betting horses. The discount taken of the top will kill any player. This is entertainment (lesson 40 for Pancho).
If you want to lose less, try education.

Next time instead of stuffing that extra nacho, show a bid of class and learn to say thank you. That thank you might put a few extra dollars in your pocket so that you can afford to 'SUPER SIZE IT'.